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Chelios

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04-02-2011 06:03 PM

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I have experience with LN, veritas, stanley current generation planes and a very old craftsman blade. Of course the LN and veritas blades give amazing results when compared to the cheaper makers.

I have read a couple times that there are some other makers that specialize in blades and that they are superior in performance. What brands are out there and what experience have you had with them. Are they truly better that LN and Veritas or is it only marginal improvement after that? I am always looking for better performance from my planes.

Thanks


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bigike

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#1 posted 04-02-2011 06:32 PM

The blades that are out there are hock, pinnacle, japanese blue steel blades, clifton, lee valley makes a blade too. All are great blades if you got one of the old stanley’s or record planes as far as LN and veritas goes those blades can be changed but to nothing better than what they come with IMHO. I upgraded most of my stanley’s and record planes with hock and pinnacle blades they are both saweeeeeet blades when put in a well tuned plane.

-- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com

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Chelios

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#2 posted 04-02-2011 07:50 PM

Thanks Ike

I was doing some research and there seems to be some hype around a CPM 10V steel that is supposed to hold an edge 5 times better than A2 steel which is what LN and Veritas use so I was wondering if anyone out there knows anything about this?

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#3 posted 04-02-2011 10:24 PM

CPM 10V is a steel made from powdered metal (CPM=cucible partical metal) with a high content of vanadiun. Its claim to fame is combining toughness and abrasion resistance. I can see this being a great blade for a chisel where you need the toughness, but I wonder if it’s cost effective for a plane blade. I don’t know from personal experience as I have never tried this product, but I speak from knowledge of metals and casting which is a field in which I have worked for 40 years.

In general, powdered metal products allow the manufacturer to combine metals that normally could not be combined in the molten state. Kinda like being able to mix oil and water. You can mix a metal that normally has extreme hardness but is brittle as glass with a metal that is extremely tough, but not very hard and come up with a material that has both properties.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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#4 posted 04-02-2011 10:56 PM

I personally am sold on Hock O1 plane blades. I have them on my old Stanley planes. These hold an edge very well and since I typically hone my blades before I use them really do not see the need to use a tougher steel. This is not the case with my chisels, A2 all the way.

-- Marc

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#5 posted 04-02-2011 11:49 PM

check out robcosman.com

see some of his sharpening methods and ideas on blades.

worth the look. all the best!

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#6 posted 04-03-2011 12:13 AM

The Hock blades work well in the Groz (Record replica) planes as well…

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#7 posted 04-03-2011 04:15 AM

I was told by someone who likely knows that putting a Hock plade in my old #4 will require a little file work to open the mouth. Is that the case ‘cuz I’d like to try one without “violating” my plane?

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#8 posted 04-03-2011 04:22 AM

I’ve got a Hock in my Old No 4 and it required no extra work on the mouth. I am happy with the blade and would buy from Hock again.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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