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GaArtisan

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02-01-2018 02:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: thickness planer industrial planer rough thickness rough cut rough saw question tip milling rustic

Okay guys, I’m hoping someone out there has a creative answer for me. I work with a furniture company that builds with all reclaimed wood, so everything that we bring in ranges in thickness. We may have to use boards anywhere from 5/8” to 7/8” to make each tabletop, and we’re making upwards of 10 tables a week. We’ve been using a decent Delta thickness planer (model 22-555), but it’s really slowing us down and we don’t really need the traditional planer precision level. All we really need is to get all the pieces cut to within 1/16” variance, and it could even be a pretty rough cut.

I’m imagining some planer-like or even saw-mill like machine that we could set to a standard thickness and run everything through with a single pass. So we’re talking cutting up to 1/4” per pass. Again, we don’t need perfectly smooth or super-precise cuts. Does anyone know of a machine that could do this for us? Preferably something that wouldn’t require a second mortgage to buy/replace blades on.

Any help is much appreciated!


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#1 posted 02-01-2018 02:39 PM

What you want is a planer. You have a planer. Get a bigger/better planer for more money, or don’t…

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#2 posted 02-01-2018 02:49 PM

That many tables I think merits a bigger planer. I would seriously consider carbide insert/spiral cutter head. More up front but it will save you time and money down the road with the blade life.

Something like the Steelex ST1012 or similar is where I would start. Maybe too pricey for a hobby but not a huge investment if you are turning out hundreds of tables a year.

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#3 posted 02-01-2018 02:55 PM

I think a bandsaw with a single pivot point on a fence would work.

-- Aj

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#4 posted 02-01-2018 03:00 PM

A Belsaw planer with a 3-5hp motor will
take off 1/4” in a pass I think. They aren’t
very big or costly on the used market. They
weigh 3-400 lbs. which is not a lot for a planer.

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#5 posted 02-01-2018 03:03 PM

a “professional” woodworking company that is making upwards of 10 tables a week
should invest in larger machines to handle the present workload plus increase production.
Time is Money – Money can pay higher wages plus purchase larger machines.
like Rob said: 500 tables a year is a LOT of tables to produce with inadequate equipment !!!
and if you only “work there” the owner of the company should have already noticed that
he needs heftier equipment to keep up with production.

jus my Dos Centavos

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#6 posted 02-01-2018 04:04 PM

A resaw would be faster, create less waste and likely cost quite a bit more than a large planer but could fit the bill for what you’re trying to do. Your Delta 22-555 will not be long for this world trying to keep up with the demand for a 10 table a week shop!

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#7 posted 02-01-2018 04:06 PM

Double post

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#8 posted 02-02-2018 05:27 AM

I think a entry level bandsaw sawmill would do the job well and be reasonable priced alternative to a heavy duty planer. Harbor Freight has one for just over $2K USD….

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#9 posted 02-02-2018 06:20 AM

What about a Delta 12/14 or equivalent? If a 14” blade on a table saw is wide enough for the table top components, a saw like this would handle all you could throw at it.

I’ve seen these pop up on craigslist from time to time. Auction sites like machinerymax.com can also be worth checking out.

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#10 posted 02-02-2018 01:52 PM

a 22-555 isnt really intended for the production you are doing.
when ya get away from the lumchbox planers and into something like the foley mentioned or another production planer, cost of sharpening isnt bad- theres many companies that do it and its also possible to get a sharpening machine. the cost to sharpen will( or should) be added to overhead in the price of the product.
as for brands, powermatic and northfield are 2 to look into

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#11 posted 02-02-2018 02:31 PM

lol. So he’s in the business for the money? Psh. What a moron. He should be maximizing his expenses, OBVIOUSLY!


Sounds like your boss is a money greedy asshole. Piss poor business plan, and does not know the woodworking business. I doubt you will have a job for very long. Good luck though.

- FancyShoes


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#12 posted 02-02-2018 02:41 PM

What you need is a horizantal resaw bandsaw. That would give you the thickness you want and a leftover piece that can be used as a veneer.

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#13 posted 02-04-2018 02:12 AM

I agree with Woody. I work in a woodshop that has a big Grizzly 16” horizontal resaw. We run palletfuls of lumber through it every day. We make 2x lumber into 1x lumber. Plus everything else you can think of. Of course a beast like that aint cheap, but its what you guys need.
Skidiot

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#14 posted 02-04-2018 05:33 AM

In our shop we use a Grizzly 17” 5hp vertical bandsaw with a Co-matic AF10 variable speed bandsaw feeder. A Lenox carbide resaw blade and a Lenox tension gauge. Set the resaw fence to the thickness you require and cut. Works great. It does cost more than the lunch box planer you are using.

-- Wuddoc

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#15 posted 02-04-2018 06:50 AM



lol. So he s in the business for the money? Psh. What a moron. He should be maximizing his expenses, OBVIOUSLY!

- gargey

I have a friend who works for a guy who does not pay his employees overtime. Im not aure how he gets away with it. My friend is on call every weekend. Works 40 hours a week, sometimes having to take a saturday or sunday to a customers place of business to fix a down sales computer or register.

Like I stated, my friend does not get paid overtime, however his boss makes him charge his customers double for weekend service.

I know my friend lacks self confidence, and is really bad at interviews. I have tried to help, but he does not think he can get any better.

So when I read this above original post, I see a owner just like the one my friend works for.

Lack of proper tooling, leaving his employees to look up alrernative ways to get stuff done, and types of machines available. Im not apologizing for what I see.

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