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Topic tags/keywords: question oak finish finishing tung oil pure drying speed time decrease
I have been using Pure Tung Oil from the Real Milk Paint company. I love how it works, but again I have the same old concerns about proper drying and dry time. I am building picture frames, and want to be able to finish a piece from 1st coat to 3rd in at least 5-8 days. I use a lot of red oak, walnut, but also several other woods. So here are my questions: 1. Some people say that the mineral spirit/TO 50/50 decreases dry time, but requires more coats, so what is the point? 2. One person suggested I build a drying box. 3. Should I consider a different finish? 4. Is cure time different then drying time? I want to know when it would be safe to put a mat or picture in a frame and not risk giving it an oil stain! Brandon -- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν |
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#1 posted 783 days ago |
1. More control of the finish build 2. might be a good idea if you have the space 3. probably 4. yes. Curing can take months. When the finish is dry it will |
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#2 posted 783 days ago |
1. A thinned oil will penetrate some woods deeper than the thicker 100% oil. You might try thinning for the first application or two, then go to the full strength stuff. 2. No opinion. 3. The oil finish has stood the test of time. On a picture frame, it should be good. 4. I agree with Loren. -- Kinky Friedman on gay marriage: "They should have the right to be just as miserable as the rest of us." |
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#3 posted 783 days ago |
An oil/varnish blend is more durable than Tung Oil by itself. Use a faster drying solvent like VMP Naphtha. If you cannot find it, (due to EPA), then lacquer thinner would work also. -- shdesign3.com |
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#4 posted 783 days ago |
Thanks, I’ll give it some thought. I really want to use as natural a process as possible. -- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν |
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#5 posted 783 days ago |
I think almost any finish is better than tongue oil. I know others use it but it is so outdated it takes for for every to dry and is not as protective as modern finishes. Many people recommend it because the old master furniture makers used it. They used it because that was one of only two or three of the finishes available back then and the others do not offer much protection either. The only one in use buy most furniture makers today is shellac . -- W James Brokenbourgh Custom furniture maker http://artisticwoodstudio.com/ |
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#6 posted 781 days ago |
have you tried Waterlox….its a tung oil blend. seems to work very good when I’ve used it….. -- Todd, Oak Ridge, TN, Hello my name is Todd and I'm a Toolholic, I bought my last tool 10 days, no 4 days, oh heck I bought a tool on the way here! † |
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#7 posted 781 days ago |
My limited experience has been with finishing my oak flooring. I had used poly on the first rooms and wasn’t happy with the “plastic” look. I used the tung oil cut 50-50 with mineral spirits. I wiped on a coat and within a few minutes it had soaked in and the repeated 2 more times. The next day 2 coats and on the 3rd 1 coat. It then took about 10 days-2 weels before we began walking on it but it looks so much more natural and has been down now 5 years and still looks great. If you can wait on it to cure I’d recommmend it. -- Garry, Kentucky |
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#8 posted 781 days ago |
Thanks folks, your replies have been really helpful: Jim: I am considering being more flexibile and following Todd:’s recomendation to use Waterlox when time does not allow for drying. Otherwise I am going to make sure to wipe off reside after soaking time, and if it isn’t drying to hand rub it to make it dry quicker. I have some Johnson’s paste wax…does anyone know how to apply (how much, let it sit? how much wiping off or rubbing in)? -- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν |
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#9 posted 781 days ago |
Garry, I agree with your assesment and I also noticed you’re not too far from us! Neat. -- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν |
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#10 posted 781 days ago |
Re: Johnson’s Paste Wax 1. great for tool table tops -- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton |
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#11 posted 781 days ago |
the wax you have to let dry to a haze then buff, you can apply it useing a cheese cloth with a clump of it in the middle. -- Ike, Big Daddies Woodshop, http://www.icombadaniels@yahoo.com |
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#12 posted 781 days ago |
Sam Malloof published a finish recipe I tried a few times. As After 3-4 coats of that, you’d topcoat with a wax. Such finishes, done well, are delightful to touch, are easily |
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#13 posted 781 days ago |
Japan Drier. -- When the moderator chooses sides, his site sucks. |
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#14 posted 779 days ago |
I’ve used the Maloof finish for years, on pretty much every piece of furniture i make. The secret with using tung oil is to realize that it doesn’t fully dry on its own. Or if it does it can take up to several weeks. The reason behind blending it with boiled linseed oil and polyurethane is that they both have metallic driers blended into them, this helps the tung oil to dry too. the oils give a depth to the wood that is unmatched and the poly offers a thin coat of protection without looking like thick plastic. you could probably add Japan drier to tung oil to help it set, i’ve never tried that but have heard people that do it. The 3 part mixture works for me and as my daughter says “daddy the woods so pretty and soft, i just can’t keep my hands off it. -- Joey, Magee, Ms http://woodnwaresms.com |
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