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Forum topic by David posted 01-30-2018 09:10 PM 1311 views 0 times favorited 33 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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David

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01-30-2018 09:10 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question planer

Hi,

Restoring an old plane is out of the question for me at this time. I want to purchase brand NEW Jack and smoothing planes, I am new to woodworking and I dont want to restore and old Stanley #5. Also I dont want to spend an arm and a leg for these stuff, something that reasonable in price.

Thanks so much.

David

-- David Tab


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bbasiaga

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#1 posted 01-30-2018 09:18 PM

Wood river seems to be a good choice, depending on your definition of reasonable.

You could also get an ready restored older plane from one of the jocks that sell them here. That might be the cheapest if you are not set on new.

Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#2 posted 01-30-2018 09:58 PM

Ditto. Refurb’d by others is the way to get the most bang for your buck. timetestedtools

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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#3 posted 01-30-2018 10:12 PM

There are lots of old planes that are ready to go that have already been restored or that don’t need restoration. Don’t overlook those.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Vindex

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#4 posted 01-30-2018 10:17 PM

I agree with the others that buying a refurbished used one from someone on this site is the way to go. A new plane within your budget would require a lot of work to tune up.

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#5 posted 01-30-2018 11:33 PM

I’ve never “restored” a vintage plane, but
I have cleaned the rust off, sharpened the
irons and put them to work. As long as
the parts are all there, a Bailey plane is not
a very complicated tool to get working.

In any case, Grizzly sells new Bailey style
planes at inexpensive prices. I would guess
you could get one cutting wood pretty quick
and if you get a bug to pursue finer shavings
you could get some “layout fluid” and check
the sole.

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Vindex

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#6 posted 01-31-2018 02:29 AM

I think you need to start with a properly tuned plane so that you can get a feel for it. A Grizzly plane is not going to work properly right out of the box, and if you don’t know what a tuned plane is supposed to feel like, you are probably going to get frustrated trying to get the darn thing in good working order.

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David

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#7 posted 01-31-2018 03:21 PM

Thanks for all you comments, I was wondering if Stanley Jack Plane #5 brand new one is worth buying, it is $75 on Amazon if I don’t buy a vintage planer?

https://www.amazon.com/Stanley-12-905-14-Inch-Contractor-Smooth/dp/B00004UDKW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1517411998&sr=8-2&keywords=stanley+jack+plane

Thanks

-- David Tab

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#8 posted 01-31-2018 03:36 PM

What you are going to find with most new planes in the sub $100 range and some over that is that you will have to spend some time sharpening and tuning the plane so buying an even cheaper used one will not be much more work to get it tuned up. If you buy one from one of the guys who has refurbished (cleaned and tuned) it already you can usually immediately put it to work for less than that Stanley.

If you are set on a new plane, check out some of the YouTube videos on setup and tuning of hand planes. There are several good ones and you will see that the amount of work to tune a new one is not much different than what you would do with a good used one you find at a garage sale.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#9 posted 01-31-2018 03:42 PM

Buying a cheap plane….....................hmmm?
Does that mean that you don’t really want to learn how to use a plane?
Buy a refurbed #4 from a reliable source, learn how to use it properly, enjoy the result.
THAT is the way to spend your time and money wisely.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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#10 posted 01-31-2018 03:45 PM

There used to be a brand of planes called
Anant made in India that got some good reviews,
but they don’t seem to be available. Even some
of the high end plane companies like Clifton
have had quality control problems. I think
delivering an affordable Bailey style plane that
doesn’t piss off people on the internet is
probably impossible these days. Perhaps
buyer expectations are too high. Perhaps
cheap new planes suck on the average.

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#11 posted 01-31-2018 03:48 PM



Thanks for all you comments, I was wondering if Stanley Jack Plane #5 brand new one is worth buying, it is $75 on Amazon if I don t buy a vintage planer?

- David

No, IMO, it is not worth buying. Some of the new hand planes like that one can be tuned up to work decently, if you know what you are doing. Others are simply not capable due to really loose manufacturing tolerances on cheaper planes like that one. I will echo the advice of all those above. For the price of that new Stanley, you can get a vintage jack that is much better constructed and has been tuned up by someone knowledgeable and is ready to use.

For someone new to hand planes, that is a huge boost. When I started with planes, I thought I was doing a good job setting them up and sharpening. It wasn’t until receiving one in trade from another LJ member that I realized how a well tuned plane ought to perform. Having that standard to try and meet pushed my expectations much higher and allowed me to get the most out of the tools.

One place you should look would be Time Tested Tools Don is a member of this forum and is very knowledgeable and skilled at restoring and tuning planes. He’s not showing many jacks at the moment, but this one is definitely worth considering. It’s a little more than the one you posted, but that extra price gets a forged steel body (won’t break when dropped) and a far superior design and construction that will outperform that new budget plane and you won’t have the extra time to learn to tune and fettle.

-- In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Thomas Jefferson

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Vindex

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#12 posted 01-31-2018 04:12 PM

I think JayT nailed it, and I think the plane he recommended is an ideal fit for your needs.

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Smitty_Cabinetshop

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#13 posted 01-31-2018 05:33 PM

Please consider taking the advise that’s been solicited and provided: a refurbished vintage tool, by a quality tool monger like Don W, is head and shoulders better than purchasing any newly manufactured plane that retails for less than $150. You’re just inviting frustration if you go “new” and “cheap.”

-- Don't anthropomorphize your handplanes. They hate it when you do that. -- OldTools Archive --

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dhazelton

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#14 posted 01-31-2018 06:24 PM

Old Stanley’s for $20 and under sit in every antique shop in America. Most of them only need to be cleaned and the blade sharpened.

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David

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#15 posted 01-31-2018 06:35 PM

Got it. I found Stanley #5 plane on ebay, honed and everything, I am going to go for it:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/263462505505

Thanks all

-- David Tab

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