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jsheaney

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1216 days ago

I think many of us feel like the most important contributions we make back to the community is in posting our projects. Some get more ambitious at some point and generate blogs and reviews, etc. I’m sure that is a much smaller percentage than those who post projects. So my basic premise is that project posting is very important to us as individuals.

Members that have been around for awhile finish a project, type up some description of what they did and post their pictures with pride and a sense of accomplishment. I think it is also comes with a sense of gratitude. We’ve all benefitted by seeing the examples of all the projects that have been posted before and there is a real sense of giving back when one shares a completed project.

Since projects take time, they typically are posted one at a time. sometimes there might be two or three versions of a project done as a batch and then posted separately, but that not very common.

On the other hand, quite often, I see new members join and immediately post a whole slew of projects that they already have completed. The side effect of this is that it wipes out a whole slew of projects on the main page. I’m sure this is not intentional; newbies simply don’t know how the site works when they first join.

I wonder if there is some way to suggest during the signup process that new members limit themselves to two or three projects per day. Actually, I would be OK with programmatically enforcing a limit of three projects in a 24 hour period. I don’t see any benefit to anyone posting projects at a higher rate than this.

-- Disappointment is an empty box full of expectation.


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lew

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#1 posted 1216 days ago

On more than one occasion, I have sent a private message to the newbies guilty of this little misstep. They have all been very understanding and seemed to appreciate the heads-up about how the site works.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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jsheaney

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#2 posted 1216 days ago

That appears to reenforce my assertion that this is only done out of ignorance. Of course, telling them after the fact doesn’t do a whole lot of good. I’m essentially making two suggestions.

1) Educate new members of this issue as part of the signup process.

2) Implement a limit on the rate at which projects can be posted.

What do you think?

-- Disappointment is an empty box full of expectation.

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wseand

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#3 posted 1216 days ago

I don’t even bother with the home page, I use the LJ Toolbar so I just click on the Shortcuts or use the What’s New. I only go through the projects from the Projects Page. This way I can review what I want to look at. There is really too many now a days to review then all. So for me it doesn’t really matter if they post 1 or 10. Although, I will say if someone does post 10 in one day I am certainly not going to go through all of them.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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bubinga

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#4 posted 1216 days ago

Very good post
I am new here and this is good information
Luckily I am Not Guilty, as I have posted only one project

-- E J ------- Always Keep a Firm Grip on Your Tool

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fernandoindia

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#5 posted 1216 days ago

Indeed a good idea to include a message during the sign up process.

But I don´t agree in limiting the posts per day. I have finished 23 projects and am anxious to post them immediately. Lol

WHen I joined LJ, received a self explanatory welcome msg from Gary / Bureaucrat

Welcome to Lumber Jocks! This is a great place to get – or give – advice about woodworking on the forums and the project posts are a wonderful source of new ideas. I look forward to seeing your projects and posts.

To get the most feedback on your projects, it’s best to only post 1 or 2 at a time. This way you will get feedback over several days and from a wide variety of members.

Please enjoy your membership.

-- Back home. Fernando

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moment

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#6 posted 1216 days ago

I think you all should start your own sites ,

and then you could all be on the first Page

All The Time , ‘contributing ’ to your “communities “

in a manner more suited to you EGOs .

What a joke…....................

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RetiredCoastie

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#7 posted 1216 days ago

I don’t see any ones ego coming out here. This is a problem that has been discussed in the past. There are a few folks that will post 3 or 4 separate posts within 5 minutes when they could just as easily have made one post with all the projects and describe the projects within the one post. All they’re asking is save room for others. They are posting on their own site it’s called LUMBERJOCKS. You my friend are the JOKE!

-- www.thepatriotwoodworker.com Proud Supporter of Homes For Our Troops

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wseand

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#8 posted 1216 days ago

@ moment, your attitude is for worse than anyone’s egos. All they are trying to do it make it more fair and better for the poster. Like I said I don’t use the home page but a lot of new onlookers and others do. I am certainly not going to comment on 60 new projects a day. But if there was only 15 or 20 I would be more obliged to take more time to review all of them. So take your attitude and make your own site.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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moment

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#9 posted 1216 days ago

No one should be PMing new members about this . Read the posting rules, pretty clear . I didn’t say They
Were ‘Jokes’ ....just that the idea was . I don’t make personal attacks , it’s against posting rules .

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HawkDriver

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#10 posted 1216 days ago

We are already having things made of wood removed from the project section. Adding one more demand to the system that has already made some angry seems like a bad idea to me. Just MHO.

-- Patrick, Helicopters don't fly. They beat the air into submission.

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wseand

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#11 posted 1216 days ago

It looked pretty personal to me Moment. Its Ok though they will probably be deleted eventually anyways.

-- Bill - "Freedom flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy

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moment

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#12 posted 1216 days ago

I hope so . This is really out of character for me . Just having a bad day . Too much ego on my part for sure. goodnight

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Rick

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#13 posted 1216 days ago

I agree , to an extent. BUT! We’ve been through this “Prestige Of The Front Page” so many times it’s geting Shop Worn. There was an attack on 10,000 Pens being posted…etc etc etc. I can go through the Front page in seconds if there’s nothing on there that interests me and Click on Page 2 and so and so on. Point being It’s ALL Projects and I see NO difference having to go from one page to the next.

I will look at what I want to look at and I will only comment on those that impress me. I will NOT use “Cut & Paste” as some members do.

Right now at 5:00 AM EST the front page lasts 2 Hours. Sometimes it’s down to 30 minutes or less. I think that’s from the shear size of the Membership and YES… some are posting 3 to 5 Projects one after the other. They AREN’T all Newbies.

If anything bugs me it’s the LACK of any Description regarding the Project. i.e “My Wife’s new side table.” END?? There is also usually ONE Picture of the Finished Project. How do we know where it came from for sure?? I’ve already (over the last year) nailed 3 Posters whose Project I recognised from somewhere else.

Some of the Pictures are Sideways or so dark you can hardly make them out. What does that say about YOUR Pride in your Project?? I’ve “Lifted” a few of them and reposted them 100% improved. Took me about 10 minutes to do it. AGAIN: These where NOT all Newbies.

Personally, I spend more time in the Forums and Reviews than I do looking at Projects. A lot of guys have been here for 3/4/5 Hundred days and haven’t Posted any Projects.

Back on Topic: As far as establishing more rules it gets tried all the time and doesn’t usually happen. We have New(er) Rules in Project Postings to clarify WOOD ONLY. BUT! it’s still happening..NON Wod Projects are still being Posted MOST OFTEN…. NOT BY NEWBIES!! Then all the Long Time Pros chime in and Commend Him or Her on their Project????

Okay. Enough. Might I suggest that if you want to try and set up New Rules for Posting Projects that it be done in the Lead In to actually Posting the Project. Then they can NOT pay attention to them either. NOT trying to be a “Dickhead” but that’s just the fact of the matter.

I might also suggest that you (generic) have a look at the Darker Gold Line below that starts with “Home” on the Left Side and ends with “Advertise” on the Right Side. If you can sort it all out I would be surprised.

Going to bed now.

Keep The Faith Ya’ll. No matter what…this is a Great Site!!! Lost a LOT since “Coffee Shop” was taken away but I GUESS It’ll survive.

Night All: Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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Gregn

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#14 posted 1216 days ago

I’ve said this before and will say it again. There should be an option to post past projects and even new projects to My Projects that would not be posted on the homepage or new projects page. As one who has left other sites and devoted my energy to LJ’s I have done this to post pics of projects to get them on My Projects page. While I agree that the projects can sometimes be over whelming on the homepage, an option to post to just your My Projects page would eliminate a lot of this. This is not to say that someone can’t post a project that will appear on the homepage for immediate viewing. There have been many times I have gone to someones profile page to look at the projects they have done, to gain inspiration, see how their skills have progressed or how they may have done something and not just their new projects.

I just noticed that I have been on LJ’s for a year now and how many things that have changed here at LJ’s including making it easier to post images in a thread to opening of new forums and closing of a forum. With all the options that have been provided in this last year. I would think this would be an easy option the administrators could add.

I recall a time before you could post an image in a thread without going through a third party site that I posted a pic to show an LJ what I did for a ramp to my shed. I was sort of called on the carpet for posting it where it appeared on the new projects. The comment was made that it wasn’t woodworking. Now I can include a pic in a thread to show an example image to someone without it going to places that I had no intention of it showing up at. So its just the nature of the beast in how and where one can post images without offending anyone at this time.

To limit how many images one can post without more options in one day would be wrong in my opinion when so many of us are visual type people to begin with.

-- I don't make mistakes, I have great learning lessons, Greg

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Brit

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#15 posted 1216 days ago

Personally, I can’t see what all the fuss is about. If a new member wants to post 20 projects in one day, what difference does it make to anyone else. I really don’t see how it affects anyone else viewing the Home page. If you are interested in viewing the projects of others, just go to the Projects section on the Home page and click ‘View All’ or simpler still, click the Projects tab. Why does it matter if 20 projects from the same person appear together. If you don’t like their projects, just click past them.

The only person who might be missing out is the person who is posting the 20 projects, because they might not get as many comments as they would if they posted 1 project a week over 20 weeks. I say might be missing out because not everyone who posts projects on LJs seems to be interested in the comments people leave. I agree with Rick that a project posting should be more than one picture and accompanied by more than a throw away line of text. I would also say that if you post a project and people are kind enough to comment on it, you should monitor your post and answer any questions people might have. Sometimes people post a project and don’t seem to ‘watch’ their post afterwards. If people aren’t interested in what other people think of their projects, please just put NO COMMENTS PLEASE and we’ll understand.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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