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Topic tags/keywords: question Or red and white? As I made my first pieces and got more and more into the design, my work evolved from being very spontaneous, to the point of not knowing how the piece would come together, to a more planned approach as to the joinery the milling, wood grain orientation, shapes, ratios etc.
As I got more involved in the planning of my projects, I started looking back at my first pieces and I came to the realization that I suffered from what I now call the black and white (checkerboard) syndrome. My projects had to have the contrasting colors of maple/padauk or maple bloodwood. Once I realized this I started observing other people’s work and I found that many other fellow woodworkers went through or are going through the same checkerboard phase. Follow this Lumberjocks tag so you can see what I mean http://lumberjocks.com/projects/tag/walnut So the question tonight is does making black/white furniture say “new woodworker”? Or is just trendy to use these contrasts? |
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#1 posted 783 days ago |
I will also clarify that I still consider myself a beginer. |
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#2 posted 783 days ago |
I think most people go with what looks good and then expands upon that. Contrast is a good design feature in everyday life. Not only in WW but in, interior and exterior design, clothing, and so on I don’t see how it is anything new maybe just leaning towards certain colors. Reds and whites, light and dark brown woods, those are the main colors unless you stain of course. Maybe I am full of crap, I don’t know. Maybe the availability or price of woods depicts what we buy/use, maybe its a trend, I am not really sure. Although, I wouldn’t call it checkerboard, I would call it contrasting elements or something to that effect. -- Bill - "Freedon flies in your heart like an Eagle" Audie Murphy |
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#3 posted 783 days ago |
Using contrasting woods ,is simply ,pleasing to the eye I wouldn’t call it checkerboard ether -- E J ------- Always Keep a Firm Grip on Your Tool |
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#4 posted 783 days ago |
As a beginning woodworker, I agree with EJ and Bill. I know that I use contrasting woods whenever I can, but in combination with interesting grain patterns as well. I think this is to help add interest to a piece that otherwise would not be as interesting given that as a beginning woodworker, my abilities with different joints and styles has a long way to go still. As we evolve in our woodworking skill, we’re able to do more from a design/joint perspective that may reduce the need to use contrasting woods to add interest to a project. Just my .02 -- Life is a one lap race. |
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#5 posted 782 days ago |
Well for sure it makes for more interesting pieces, I agree with that. However I have been observing that contrasting woods in hobby woodworkers’ furniture is more prevalent than in furniture made by more experienced woodworkers that actually make their living from the pieces they sell. I don’t mean to make general statements, it was just something I noticed and I was wondering of other people out there had thought about it. In the future, I will be paying closer attention to these details and probably won’t be as bold/obvious with contrast but more subtle. all the best |
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#6 posted 782 days ago |
I don’t know for wood worker, but as a architect I know this. -- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking. |
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#7 posted 782 days ago |
Ive often thought about this when designing a project, and it’s an area where I can really struggle with when I’m in the planning stages. I think contrasting woods can bring a piece of furniture to life, or they can be so distracting, that it can completely ruin a beautiful design. Most often, I find it’s a very fine line between the two. I think this quite often, is where the ‘newbie’ struggles (unknowingly) when designing, AND reproducing. They see a ‘kick ass’ design, and think they can ‘improve’ it by changing this, add some contrast to that…..what they quite often do is cause a distraction rather than make an improvement. I’m not saying that you can’t, or shouldn’t improve an idea that you’ve seen…not at all. But realize that sometimes a subtle change or contrast can have a much better impact and be more pleasing to the eye than a large one. -- Come to the dark side....we have cookies... |
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#8 posted 781 days ago |
Mads You explained it perfectly, thank you for sharing your insight and experience. Creative sense develops in steps and it is great to learn from yours. I can understand exactly what you mean by introducing a small twist in a simple design. I very much like the concept and enjoy looking at these types of creations. You and Tony have re-assured me on to the next step. thank you both! all the best |
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#9 posted 781 days ago |
I had a tear in my eye reading your words, it’s rare these days to meet a person who can take a advice in such a good way. Thank you. -- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking. |
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#10 posted 781 days ago |
Ya guys got me thinkin here … I have a feeling that i know where you’re at and im going to try to explain it in relation to my status as a wood worker. Im at the stage right now where im still learning and tuning my joinery and overall measurements, so much of my time is dedicated to ehancing my abilities in that aspect, the designing, or the twist, hasnt been my overall focus. This is not to say that i never think about decorative design, i do, and the farthest my brain has gone is to use contrasting colors. Its easy and pleasing … for now. Im full on checkerboard. Not be be callous but when i do something and invest my time into it, i want to be good, I like to think of it as competitive nature. Be a little bit better every day, just a little bit, at least try to. To find my way to a place where Mads and others around here are would be like making it to the big leagues in my opinion. I find that this is a hobby of limitless capabilities; as proven around this site. Chelios – You’ve got a step on me but i think i learned a lot from this thread. I just may go back to the drawing board on the current piece im working on. The wheel’s are greased and they’re turnin. Mad’s – Seriously you’re a smart guy. Thanks for passing some knowledge on, i appreciate it. -- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty |
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#11 posted 781 days ago |
I’m a beginner of woodworking, trust me! -- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking. |
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#12 posted 781 days ago |
Mads It is indeed a wonderful journey. One that I am glad I get to have the chance to walk. I am glad we can come across so many great people that open our eyes along the way. Thank you again for that. I hope you are feeling better. chrisstef, I am glad it worked for you as well. I will be looking forward to seeing that project. all the best |
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#13 posted 781 days ago |
Yes I’m taking a slow up tour thank you. -- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking. |
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