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Forum topic by Brett posted 03-31-2011 10:57 PM 2586 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-31-2011 10:57 PM

Why is is that two Stanley Bailey #4 hand planes—in the same condition, same vintage, and with nearly identical shipping charges—can be sold on eBay within a couple hours of each other, and one goes for $15 and the other for $32. Is there something I’m missing?

-- More tools, fewer machines.


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#1 posted 03-31-2011 11:21 PM

Depends on who is bidding and what they have found.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 03-31-2011 11:31 PM

It’s my lucky day, I was just cleaning out an old store room at work (lawn maintenance company, located on a small old farm), low & behold a Stanley Bailey #4 hand plane.

Sorry SmilenNod, looks like I did even better than the $15.00 FleaBay deal! Lol.

On a serious note, I know nothing of hand planes, in what situations would a SB #4 be used?

-- Randy-- I may not be good...but I am slow! If good things come to those who wait.... Why is procrastination a bad thing?

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#3 posted 04-01-2011 12:17 AM

Some sellers are in fact more skilled at writing copy and taking
pictures. That’s part of the reason for price variance in ebay
auctions.

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#4 posted 04-01-2011 12:45 AM

That’s the beauty of ebay. Sellers like it because sometimes they get more money than expected when the bidders compete. Buyers like it because sometimes they pay less than expected when nobody is competing with them.

I make a living on ebay.

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#5 posted 04-01-2011 01:19 AM

Some sellers seem to always have a lot of people bidding on there tools. Even when they sell that tool for a high price, miraculously a few months later that seller will sell another tool identical to the one they sold previously. (Same chip in the tote and everything, hmmmmmmm!)

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#6 posted 04-01-2011 02:12 AM

I don’t know what you’re implying Canadianchips- do you think the seller is in business to only fake sales, pay the ebay pees associated with that sale, and then repost the item and do it all again? Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me…

On the other hand, what DOES make sense is that a seller gets a lot of bids, then someone wins who thinks only of himself and his own buyer’s remorse so he stiffs the seller by never paying for the item. The seller then loses out on the sale, has to try and recover his final value fees, and then repost the item again, paying double the listing fees.

THAT is the reality of ebay for sellers when buyers treat an auction like it’s Walmart where they can change their mind after winning (buying) the item.

Didn’t mean to go off the rails there… sorry…

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#7 posted 04-01-2011 02:19 AM

One other thing, when you sell, you can choose what category you want to list your item. If you go through completed sales, you will sometimes find that the same items bring higher prices in one category than another. For planes, they can be either in home and garden/ tools, or in collectible / tools. Some buyers limit their searches to only certain categories.

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#8 posted 04-01-2011 02:22 AM

Stumpy,
Giving equal time to stiffed buyers,... One of the planes I recently bought off of fleaBay was misrepresented. The seller had taken a grinder to the japanning on the body AFTER posting much nicer pictures of the same area on the plane. I have before and after pictures so this is NOT conjecture. The ONLY saving grace in this deal was that I had already planned to re-japan the plane anyway, but the seller never knew this. They could have ruined a collectible and put the onus on me. Just saying…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#9 posted 04-01-2011 02:49 AM

Mike- While I speak from the perspective of an honest seller, I am all too aware of the bad ones. I’ve been ripped off many times by both bad buyers AND bad sellers.

The fact is the internet makes people do things they would never dream of doing in the real, face to face world. Some buyers will screw you six ways to Sunday just for the bloody heck of it. And some sellers will lie, cheat, steal and worse to get the last buck from your pocket.

But that’s life in the virtual world where fraud, thievery, violence, porn and gambling thrive… wait a minute… that’s Vegas…

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#10 posted 04-01-2011 05:12 AM

Depends on differant things,but one thing I have found ,if it ends on a week end ,when people are availible
it goes for higher price

-- E J ------- Always Keep a Firm Grip on Your Tool

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#11 posted 04-01-2011 05:20 AM

I agree with Topomax and Loren, skill of the seller has lots to do with it.

Someone who does not show me the sole of the plane, the iron and cap iron removed and a couple other views will have a harder time selling to me than someone who does show them. It’s like full disclosure.

I wish I had never started with planes, I am hooked collecting them… :(

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#12 posted 04-01-2011 05:41 AM

A while back I bid on a knife that started at .01 with most of them selling for in the $20 range. At the exact moment the auction ended, the item was no longer available even though the seller kept listing them. Guess nobody happened to up the price on that one and it should have sold for .01 ;-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#13 posted 04-01-2011 03:48 PM

There are a lot of factors and I think the big ones were all covered in the previous replies. I think the biggest trick is the title in which you list the item and the time in which it ends. I have found that 90 percent of the bidders all wait till the very very last min before they even bid on the item. I have sold items that sat there for the entire time with no bids then in the last 5 min of the auction I get a flood of bids.

I think the trick is to figure out the right time to list the item so that the last few hours of the auction lands at a high traffic time… And NO I don’t know what that time is and I don’t want to figure it out :) To much work for such a small sale.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#14 posted 04-01-2011 03:50 PM

BTW I buy planes off ebay a lot and I am the guy who bids on the item when I see it. I never play the bidding games.. My first bid is always the most I am willing to pay for the item and if I win I win. If not there are a hundred more listed for me to bid on..

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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