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03-31-2011 06:00 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question resource cherry finishing refurbishing

In my search for the best possible blotch control on Cherry wood I came accross water-based dewaxed shellac at the Targey Coatings site.

The Product

Yes, a water based shellac. Has anyone have experience with the product or one like it?

-- Respectfully, Paul


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#1 posted 03-31-2011 06:16 AM

I had terrible luck with the product. Too many problems to mention, color between gallons was way off. The product crackled after applying top coat. This was using all Target products. The owner Jeff made a lame attempt to help with my problem, but I finished 2/3 of a set of kitchen cabinets with Mohawk products.

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#2 posted 03-31-2011 06:35 AM

Try Charles Neils blotch control. there are a number of reviews on LJs It’s great stuff.

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1430

http://shop.charlesneilwoodworking.com/Charles-Neils-Pre-Color-Conditioner--Blotch-Control_p_47.html

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#3 posted 03-31-2011 06:39 AM

I think applying a coat of sand/seal lacquer will help with the issue out are speaking of. Minwax also has a pre stain conditioner, just follow directions.

That said, number one tool for achieving even stain is going to be found in your sanding regiment.

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#4 posted 03-31-2011 07:18 AM

What the hell is this stuff?

More marketing hype?

I would have to ask my finishing instructor, by Monday I will let you know.

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#5 posted 03-31-2011 02:01 PM

I use the Target WB shellac and lacquer and have great luck with it. I spray a light coat on the cherry and then sand just enough to knock the grain down. Stain as usual and add chosen finish.

I have also heard of adding dye to the shellac to get the color you want.

Many use BLO, followed by Garnet shellac, followed by the finish.

If you go to my projects you will see nights stands that were finished With WB shellac, light cherry stain, and WB lacquer. The Media center was finished with just shellac and Lacquer.

Just my 2 cents.

Les

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#6 posted 03-31-2011 04:04 PM

I watched the video with Charles Neils blotch Control, & his demos and product are far better than any I have used in the past. I bougt 3 quarts for the Entertainment Center I’m making from Knotty Alder and Ash. The last thing I want is blotchy wood been there done that!!!!!!

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#7 posted 03-31-2011 05:01 PM

I don’t use a “wood conditioner” ‘cause they are just super thin finish. I use a wash coat of dewaxed shellac as a sealer.
Bill

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#8 posted 03-31-2011 05:09 PM

that target coatings water based shellac is junk. I used it as directed but it caused this blister issue where by the blisters of shellac not only pulled the stain off the wood but also pulled the dye out too. I had hard maple that was dyed with water based transit tint followed by an oil base stain then the WBS. I have pictures of the blisters and the spots where the color was removed from the wood. I also check the viscosity of the stuff, it was thinner than water – it ran from my cup almost twice as fast as water.
STAY AWAY from it.

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#9 posted 03-31-2011 06:01 PM

Thanks to all for your input.

Looks like a 50-50 shot at having success with the product and I do not think I will experiment. Way too much work put into my project to have a mess on my hand. It sounded like a good idea to cut down incompatibilities.

-- Respectfully, Paul

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