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Forum topic by Mark Shymanski posted 03-28-2011 05:26 PM 1553 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Mark Shymanski

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03-28-2011 05:26 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question tablesaw how to choose machinery

Hello All,

I’ve read through review after review, thought about what I will be doing with it and now find myself in a (as my son Paul would say) a ‘pickle’. I have saved up my pennies and will be buying a table saw (probably tomorrow if I can figure out which one)! I’ve narrowed it down to 5 (is that really narrowing it down any?:-)

Delta 36-317 10’ Left Tilt Cab. Saw with 30” Biesemeyer fence

General 50-200R 2 horse 10” Cab. Saw

Grizzly G0725P 10” hybrid saw

Rikon 10-110R 3 hp Cab Saw w/Sliding Table

Sawstop PC175 13/4 horse Prof. Cabinet saw

I realistically have only one vendor in S. Manitoba to choose from so all but the Grizzly would come from Canadian Woodworker in Winnipeg so I suspect customer service at the vendor level would be pretty much the same on 4 of the saws. I’ve heard about Grizzly’s CS reputation and many of the Jocks that I respect here have and recommend highly the Grizzly line. General equipment is Canadian so that is a big plus for me, and all seem to have a good to great reputation. The SS of course has the anti finger chopping technology which certainly a factor. I’ve only just learned about the Rikon this morning (I knew they made them but I didn’t know that Can.Woodworker sold them. I have the Rikon 14” bandsaw and am super impressed with it (over the Delta which was the leading contender until I researched and kicked the tires on the Rikon).

I’m in a quandary and I I guess I am more thinking out loud here then anything. I am hoping that when I get to Winnipeg tomorrow and get my hands on the 4 that CW has that something will just leap out at me differentiating one saw from the other. I think I am going to measure heights of saws, check out wheel placement ease of movement type stuff. I’m thinking it may just be the little things that separate them…

Is there anything that I should be looking for as far as ergonomics or noise or table placement or????

Thanks for reading, now back to pouring over spec sheets.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2


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Bertha

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#1 posted 03-28-2011 05:39 PM

Out of those listed, I’d be looking hard at the General.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#2 posted 03-28-2011 05:40 PM

General or Saw Stop

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#3 posted 03-28-2011 05:44 PM

That Rikon’s a big boy but I don’t know anything about them. The Canadian General is definitely a well respected machine. I don’t like Saw Stops but there are many here that swear by them. Good luck!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#4 posted 03-28-2011 05:56 PM

Hmm two votes for the General and one for the Sawstop. I agree Bertha the Rikon is has a fairly large foot print, that may be a deciding factor against it.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#5 posted 03-28-2011 06:00 PM

I know the SawStop comes in two flavors and the “industrial” one (I think) is the one that people really like. I’d definitely buy a cabinet saw, whichever you choose. This is a nice problem to have!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#6 posted 03-28-2011 06:17 PM

I have the General Int. 50-240 and have been very happy with it; however I’ve played a bit with a Sawstop and have been very impressed with how well built it is, safety features aside it is one slick machine.

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#7 posted 03-28-2011 06:28 PM

Get as long of a cast iron table as you can. If you can cut a 4×8 sheet of plywood safely, this is good. A Beismeyer fence is good as well. While you are there, ask the techs how to align the blades to the top. If they can walk you through this, you will find out which saws they really like and are the best to maintain. Also look at the miter fence – what quality are the “other” tools that come with the fence.

While you are there, look at the dado blades, you will need a good one.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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Bertha

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#8 posted 03-28-2011 06:48 PM

^and be prepared for the price on that dado set! They’ll sticker shock you.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Mark Shymanski

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#9 posted 03-28-2011 07:49 PM

Ahh asking the techs about the saw is a real good point, thank you!

I agree Bertha about the cabinet saw, I’m not sure how much different a hybrid like the Grizzly is different from a cabinet saw though.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#10 posted 03-28-2011 07:58 PM

The way I look at it, if you are going to ask for assistance, its not a bad idea to get something that is supported well. It can be the best tool in the world but if you cannot use it, its a waste of time and money.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#11 posted 03-28-2011 08:29 PM

Mark, there is another and I think better place in Winnipeg. Go to felder machinery on church ave. They carry general and Steel City. Far better service than cdn woodworker and better prices. Ask for Duncan, he has treated me very well.
I have the 5 hp steel city and it has been perfect as have all my steel city tools

Best of luck

-- Tom From Winnipeg

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#12 posted 03-28-2011 08:36 PM

^hear that? FIVE HP.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#13 posted 03-29-2011 05:05 AM

I will have to check out Felder, I had forgotten completely about them…I think they are related to my much missed Wooden Edge store here in Brandon.

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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#14 posted 03-29-2011 08:13 AM

Just a note: General as you say is Canadian. Not so for General “International”.

-- Paul M ..............If God wanted us to have fiberglass boats he would have given us fibreglass trees. http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/

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#15 posted 03-30-2011 04:56 AM

You are right Paul about International vs Canadian, I was more referring to the company being based in Canada not necessarily where the tools are manufactured.

Mark

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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