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YesHaveSome

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01-16-2018 12:02 AM

Evening all,

I’ve started a website and YouTube channel for my projects and would love some feedback on the first set of plans I made. It’s for an assembly/outfeed table. It was my first go round with SketchUp so things were a bit rocky but I think they turned out okay in the end. Any feedback and opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Here’s a link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/9betwpddab28jq2/Assembly-Outfeed-Table-Plans.pdf?dl=0

There are affiliate links in the plan. Figured I should disclose that.

Thanks

-- But where does the meat go?


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#1 posted 01-16-2018 12:49 AM

if I were building from your plans, I would change out those ankle busting castors to something
more beefier and mounted underneath the frame. (taking the table height into consideration).

.

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#2 posted 01-16-2018 01:16 AM



if I were building from your plans, I would change out those ankle busting castors to something
more beefier and mounted underneath the frame. (taking the table height into consideration).

.

- John Smith

Thanks for the feedback, John. The casters are plenty beefy and I dont use them a ton since I dont move the table all that often since I relegated my car to the driveway. However, I have whacked my ankles on them a few times!

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#3 posted 01-16-2018 01:29 AM


However, I have whacked my ankles on them a few times!

- YesHaveSome

LOL, that’s what John’s talking about. You definitely need to address that in your design.

I have some issues of my own with it. I’m not a fan of the leg design. Screwing together 2X lumber isn’t very strong, and in particular, the way you have the top and bottom frames attached is very weak. You’re screwing into the end grain of pine. Actually screwing into the end grain of any wood is weak, but soft construction lumber will be especially bad. It would have been better to have the 5-1/2” wide board on the front and the 4” on the end (swapped from where they are now) and then you could screw into the front face of the leg and through to the face of the frame piece.

It looks like you put a lot of work into it, but I think it still has a ways to go. It’s not a plan that I would build from much less pay for.

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#4 posted 01-16-2018 01:35 AM

Appreciate the feedback, Rich, that makes sense.

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#5 posted 01-16-2018 01:47 AM

Posted a comment in drop box.

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#6 posted 01-16-2018 02:19 AM

Thanks, Lew

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#7 posted 01-16-2018 02:50 AM

Way to start something new. Keep the ideas rolling!

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#8 posted 01-16-2018 02:53 AM

Thanks, Gilley

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#9 posted 01-16-2018 02:59 AM


The casters are plenty beefy and I dont use them a ton since I dont move the table all that often
since I relegated my car to the driveway. However, I have whacked my ankles on them a few times!
- YesHaveSome

hmmmmm, well, since you already knew this is a flaw in your design, and you are planning
to provide this plan to the masses, don’t you think it should be somewhat safe ??
or at least put in your instructions for the builder to use casters of their choice.
just because you don’t move your table around much doesn’t mean that someone else
has the same work habits as yourself. try to cover all your bases and think outside the box.
for your initial design, I would leave the casters out of your drawings and let the
builder make their own decisions from there to make it mobile or stationary.
and another note that the builder may have to adjust the length of the legs to compensate
for the casters they choose.

.

-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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#10 posted 01-16-2018 03:10 AM

Well, I dont think it’s unsafe. My reply regarding the ankles was a bit tongue in cheek. The table top overhangs the casters and I catch myself on that almost every day due to how close one side of the table is to another bench. The casters arent an integral part of the table. They simply screw onto the sides so anyone who wants to build the table has a choice on whether or not to use them.

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#11 posted 01-20-2018 04:33 AM

The casters look like the kind that raise the table for rolling it around, and flip up to lower the legs to the floor. If they aren’t intended to be the retractable kind, I agree they would be better under the legs.

Which makes this a good time to raise this question: the locking casters are great for keeping the table in place. But when you have rolled it to its new location, what if the locking mechanism ends up underneath and out of sight? How do you reach your toe under there to activate them? I’ve never seen anybody address this problem. It’s one reason I don’t use that kind of caster.

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#12 posted 01-20-2018 04:56 AM

I applaud anyone willing to tinker with Sketchup, I don’t have the patience to learn it myself. I am still drawing specs with a pencil and paper, lol. I don’t have any observations that other folks haven’t already made, except that I don’t find the casters to be much of an issue. Everyone has their preferences and they can be taken into account or left alone entirely. Keep pushing yourself, knowledge is a valuable thing.

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#13 posted 01-20-2018 09:19 PM

I dont think I understand your question. When you move the table you push the levers down. Once it’s in its place you flick them back up with your toe. They don’t ever go underneath the table. Again, I could be misunderstanding your question.

Thanks


The casters look like the kind that raise the table for rolling it around, and flip up to lower the legs to the floor. If they aren t intended to be the retractable kind, I agree they would be better under the legs.

Which makes this a good time to raise this question: the locking casters are great for keeping the table in place. But when you have rolled it to its new location, what if the locking mechanism ends up underneath and out of sight? How do you reach your toe under there to activate them? I ve never seen anybody address this problem. It s one reason I don t use that kind of caster.

- runswithscissors


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#14 posted 01-20-2018 09:20 PM

Thank you. I was a CAD jockey at one point in my career and have always fiddled with things like AutoCAD and Sketchup so it’s pretty natural for me.


I applaud anyone willing to tinker with Sketchup, I don’t have the patience to learn it myself. I am still drawing specs with a pencil and paper, lol. I don’t have any observations that other folks haven’t already made, except that I don’t find the casters to be much of an issue. Everyone has their preferences and they can be taken into account or left alone entirely. Keep pushing yourself, knowledge is a valuable thing.

- IantheTinker


-- But where does the meat go?

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runswithscissors

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#15 posted 01-20-2018 09:55 PM

Yeshavesome: I’m not talking about the casters in the Sketchup drawing. I’m referring to the kind that swivel underneath. If they merely roll, I prefer to call them wheels. Casters pivot vertically besides rolling. The locking mechanism is a lever alongside the wheel, pivoting at the axle. If you pull the cart, table, or whatever toward you, those casters pivot around and are now underneath the stand. How do you reach them with your toe?

If you still don’t understand what I mean, well, never mind. Maybe it’s a problem only in my own mind.

-- I admit to being an adrenaline junky; fortunately, I'm very easily frightened

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