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mpjbay

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01-15-2018 04:10 AM

Hello All,

I have a gourd and I’d like to remove the soft sponge like material and keep the hard wood. I am working with a 1/2 in ID for access which is where in lies the issue.

The type of gourd I am working with have a very hard wood shell with a sponge like soft inner layer which is what I need to remove so only the hard wood is available to work with.

I am currently using a scraper and it works OK however it does not reach everywhere. I also custom made a couple sanding mops but they do not really work.

Typically I do not like using chemicals but would be willing to if it would solve this issue. Any suggestions for tools or chemical or critters?

Thanks in advance.


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#1 posted 01-15-2018 11:22 AM

You need a bent hollowing tool so you can reach in and into the side Easy Wood tools makes a set or any of the other manufacturers of lathe tools.

-- mrg

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#2 posted 01-15-2018 01:51 PM

mpjbay – this is where photos of your project would get you the most accurate feedback.
how long has the gourd been off the vine?

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#3 posted 01-15-2018 01:54 PM

I would get it as good as you can and then fill the container with a wood hardener, roll it all around, and then pour out the excess.

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mpjbay

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#4 posted 01-16-2018 01:40 AM

mrg = do you have a link for the tools? I found https://www.southern-tool.com/store/easy-wood-tools-hollower.php but since I do the work by hand and do not own a lathe I am not sure if they will work. I will check them out. Thank you.

John Smith = The gourd is dry. Which forum am I supposed to post questions like this to?

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John Smith

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#5 posted 01-16-2018 02:08 AM

this forum is fine – I have grown several varieties of gourds
and was just wondering what you have, how big is it and what
are you trying to achieve in the end. (what will your finished gourd be used for).
photos of what you have will be most helpful.

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#6 posted 01-16-2018 03:03 AM

Can you burn it out? Otherwise you might be stuck scraping.

-- Rick M, http://thewoodknack.blogspot.com/

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John Smith

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#7 posted 01-16-2018 03:20 AM

burn it out ?? nooooooo not possible.
the OP says the gourd is dry and he is working through a 1/2” hole.
the inside skin has to be mechanically removed.
this is why I asked him those questions. some varieties of gourd
has a fleshy skin on the inside and after it dries, it is like pulling
an old t-shirt through a small hole.
one technique is to put a handful of sharp rocks in the gourd with some water
and shake shake shake it until the skin breaks free into small pieces. wash out, repeat.
shake shake shake again, wash out, repeat as many times as necessary until the
inside is as clean as you need it to be. then, depending on the end use, treat the inside accordingly.
there are hundreds and hundreds of gourd varieties….. some can hold liquids such as water and wine.
some gourds are strictly ornamental, some you can cook and eat. some are used for martin nesting boxes.
most are not interchangeable for different uses.

my wife is Chinese and she probably grows more edible gourds and luffa sponge gourds than
anyone in our county.

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mpjbay

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#8 posted 01-16-2018 05:11 AM

Any suggestions for a good scraper , I can;t seem to find any.

I did the pea gravel treatment but there is still a 1mm or so soft layer on the inside the rocks are not getting off. Any other suggestions?

Thanks guys!

John Smith – your wife, no kidding.

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John Smith

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#9 posted 01-16-2018 01:11 PM

pea gravel will not work very well for removing anything…. it is rounded river rock
that acts as little hammers, mashing the material into itself. further compacting it – not removing it.
you must use rocks with sharp edges, like granite gravel from a driveway or train track bed.
or – 3/8” copper tubing that you can gently bend into different angles, mash the end with
a hammer to obtain the cutting/scraping edge. make a scraper out of a small limb/twig/stick that
you can sharpen with a knife for the scraper. all kinds of tricks to scrape the residue out of the inside.
or – make the hole larger so you can see what you are doing and use the appropriate tools.

photos of what you are working with and a little insight of what you are trying to achieve would help.

and yes: my wife is the gardener. I do not have the patience for it any more.

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#10 posted 01-16-2018 11:55 PM

when removing a 1/4” blade from my bandsaw this afternoon,
I noticed how flexible it was in the side-to-side direction and
extremely rigid in the up-down (vertical) direction. and I said to myself:
heeeyyyyyyy – Self !! cut off a piece of this blade and tape it to a wooden stick
and it would make an awesome scraper for the inside of the Hard Shell Gourds !!!
cut a 7/8” hole in the gourd and insert the entire blade and it will conform to the shell hull.
then rotate, push, pull, twirl, swish, and twist it around and the teeth on the saw blade
“should” remove any clinging material inside the gourd. vacuum out the residue.
repeat as necessary until satisfied with the results.

other than this – I am afraid my support efforts have come to an end.
unless the original poster can provide photos and more information about his project.

mpjbay – you will be overwhelmed with the correct information if you join the American Gourd Society.
http://www.americangourdsociety.org/links.html

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-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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#11 posted 01-17-2018 01:21 AM

Thank you for all the insight it is very helpful.

I joined the gourd society a while back and although they are a wealth of knowledge what I am doing is so specific they were not able to help. On another forum someone recommended a scorp which I think will be very useful as well as your ideas with the bandsaw blade.

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#12 posted 01-17-2018 01:27 AM

the reason the other forums could not help you very much is probably
because of the very limited information you provide when asking for assistance.
good luck in your project

-- Graduated Valedictorian from the University of HardKnocks --

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