What do do with a Stanley Bailey No. 7C that is too far gone?

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03-23-2011 09:16 PM

On a chance, I bought an old, rusty Stanley Bailey No. 7C jointer plane to try to fix it up. This was my first attempt at restoring a plane, and I didn’t realize just how badly deteriorated it was. While trying to take it apart, I discovered that some of the screws were badly rusted and others cannot even be removed. In addition, I stripped two of the screws while trying to remove them after they were soaked with penetrating oil, and I also damaged the brass adjusting nut while trying to loosen it (it was so discolored, I didn’t realize it was brass). (As I said, I’m new to this. I knew the plane was rough, and I figured that it was worth gambling $15 on it.)

Despite the problems, there are still some good parts on it. The knob and tote and the two long screws holding them to the base are solid and in good condition. The iron and cap iron are rusty but still usable (with some clean up). The base and frog are solid, despite them begin covered in rust and missing almost all the japanning. Is it worth trying to sell the parts on eBay, or should I just junk everything?

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#1 posted 03-23-2011 09:21 PM

Somebody will want the parts. Probably somebody here will offer to take
the plane off your hands.

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#2 posted 03-23-2011 09:47 PM

I’d buy the knob & tote from you.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#3 posted 03-23-2011 10:58 PM

What you have there is a donor plane. The parts will help restore another plane into service someday.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#4 posted 03-23-2011 11:01 PM

Bertha, I’ll let you know if I’m able to remove the stuck/stripped screw that holds the tote to the bed.

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#5 posted 03-24-2011 12:05 AM

I will take the whole plane and restore it as it is! What do you want for it? I like a challenge. I have restored some very rusty planes and made them look new… I wouldn’t scrap it for parts yet. It takes some more work.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#6 posted 03-24-2011 01:12 PM

If the screws are bad, drill them out and tap new holes. What you have is an opportunity. You can’t hurt it.

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#7 posted 03-24-2011 02:08 PM

The bolts, screws, and adjusting knob are all parts that can be easily replaced. I would just be careful about doing anything that would cause further damage to the frog and body of the plane. When I restore the planes, I am making a user plane and am not personally obsessed with making sure all the hardware is vintage. I had recently purchased a Bailey and was fixing it up for a friend. I noticed the adjustment knob was plastic, an item from another plane and I didn’t like the look of it. I picked up a plane hardware kit from Highland for about 10 dollars. It included all the screws, brass, bolts that will fit all Bailey planes and replaced some of the bad hardware. If you can get the tote and knob off, soak the whole thing in a product called evaporust (about 7 bucks a quart). It should free up the rust enough to get the rest of the hardware off. A jointer plane is definitely worth putting in the extra care and elbow grease to bring back if possible.

Here is a picture of the kit, along with a Hock blade I also purchased for the plane.


-- There is little that is simple when it comes to making a simple box.

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#8 posted 03-24-2011 03:41 PM

Words us old plane lovers never want to hear ! Not all people like to spend the time to bring them back, but there is always some of us that enjoy those challenges.

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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#9 posted 03-24-2011 03:52 PM

Thanks again, everyone. I have used Evapo-Rust on another plane and really like the results. I’ve tried using penetrating oil to remove the screws, but have had no luck. I think I may go the route of drilling out the screws—I’ve never done that before, but it might be a good learning experience for me. David, thanks for the suggestions about the hardware kit. I didn’t realize those exist.

What I like about the plane I have is that the know, tote, and bed are in good shape. Everything else can be replaced or fixed up, I think. I guess I won’t give up yet, and I’ll just see how far I can take it.

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#10 posted 03-24-2011 04:00 PM

I have speaking with the Stanley folks about my scraper plane. Some of the screws are Stanley threads and NC or NF threads. Call customer service, you may be able to get parts.

-- David in Damascus, MD

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#11 posted 03-24-2011 04:09 PM

I have only restored one plane, but I used electrolysis to remove the rust. Electrolysis might help to loosen the screws. Also, I dont know what penetrating oil you are using but I have had good luck with PB penetrating catalyst (you can get it a Home Depot, auto parts stores, or online vendors ). Good luck with the restoration.

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#12 posted 03-24-2011 06:57 PM

LJ likely has some very good links for restoring old planes (including electrolyiss), but this is a great link also.

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#13 posted 03-27-2011 05:36 AM

(Please ignore)

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#14 posted 03-27-2011 11:36 PM

Here are some pictures of my rusty old Stanley 7C jointer plane. Several of the screws were rusted in place and did not respond to penetrating oil or Evapo-Rust. The brass frog adjusting nut sheared in two, partly because the bolt was heavily rusted and partly because I didn’t realize that the threads are left handed. The knob and tote and the long screws are tight.

Given the condition, is it worth saving? Are any of the parts worth selling?

-- More tools, fewer machines.

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#15 posted 03-28-2011 03:37 PM

Do you have a cutting torch available to you? I have a reason for asking and it is not to turn it into scrap metal. Something I learned when I had to remove a lot of rust from iron railings that were badly rusted.

Using a cutting torch, make the flame oxygen rich (feathered). Warm the steel just a little, not molten or it will cut or damage the cast iron. Add the oxygen for cutting, this will burn the paint and rust off almost instantly. Let cool.

You have to be careful with cast iron to warm it over the whole thing to a little warmer than what you can touch, slowly or it could shatter or worse. Takes a little practice but the results are incredible, let cool by itself do not dip it in anything to cool.

Always wear a full face sheild, apron, and welder’s gloves. Cast iron can act poorly – if you catch my drift.

If not, how about a sand blaster?

-- David in Damascus, MD

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