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Forum topic by stumpknocker posted 03-22-2011 09:18 PM 1709 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-22-2011 09:18 PM

I just finished a mahogany bookcase and used 1/2 ” overlay hinges for the doors. The installation went fine, using Rockler’s jig for drilling the cup. The doors aligned perfectly and while I was admiring my work I noticed there is about a 3/8 to maybe 1/2 inch gap between the face of the cabinet and the back of the door. Has anybody ever had this happen with euro style hinges? There is some adjustment but not nearly enough to take care of this kind of distance. I cannot believe this is the way they are designed to fit. Help!


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#1 posted 03-22-2011 09:37 PM

You’ve probably mounted your mounting plates too far forward.

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#2 posted 03-23-2011 12:32 AM

I have never used the style of hinges you’re referring to. However, I have often had the problem with various styles of hinges of the door sitting proud of the cabinet face. To me, it looks good, especially if you use some real nice doors. I seem to prefer to pick nice wood for my doors and draw attention towards them.
That being said, for a half inch gap, I would plane down some matching material to just a hair under half inch and attach a strip along the bottom and top of the door on the backside of it. This serves two purposes. It closes the gap, of course. Also, it helps assure against any type of bowing of the door or cracking down the road.
Now I just noticed in your post to the part about them being half inch overlay hinges. If that means they are anything like the half inch overlay hinges I’ve been using, then they are supposed to have that gap. That is the half inch overlay. I like these hinges and do with them just as I descibed above. Most cabinets I’ve seen though that use these have behind the door some type of small catch that keeps the door aligned evenly when closed. They make magnetic catches and also the type with a spring that fits over two rollers. To me the method I desribed works for me though because the ones I’ve been using are also the spring loaded, self closing type.

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#3 posted 03-23-2011 01:20 AM

Loren, I have checked that and with the jig that I bought for these hinges it checks out perfectly. I have used other Euro hinges but have never experienced this kind of gap. I have already began looking into William’s suggestion but I would like to know exactly what causes the gap. I can see that if the hinges were mounted to far forward it would have an impact on the amount of overlay but this distance is front to back but these hinges have a kind of positioner that aligns the hinge with the front of the frame. I just have not seen this before.

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#4 posted 03-23-2011 01:54 AM

Are they faceframe hinges? What brand or model number? That may help us determine the problem.
I used 1/2” overlay that were faceframe mount. There is about a 3/16” gap on mine that is fine because it matches the bumper I used.

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#5 posted 03-23-2011 03:22 AM

I absolutely agree with you CessnaPilotBarry. The hinges are salice face frame 1/2” overlay hinges. Because of the way they are made it would be impossible or at least very difficult to mount the part of the hinge that attaches to the face frame incorrectly. So the problem has to be the part of the hinge that mounts in the door frame. I think the problem is going to be the jig that Rockler sells for drilling the cup hole is for the Blum hinges rather than the Salice hinges. If that is the case then I am an idiot and should have to do the doors over again. I hope that is not the case but I am beginning to get that ’’feeling”.

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#6 posted 03-23-2011 03:38 AM

Is there any way t get a photo of what the doors look like now?
If you’re like me, you may be over-obsessing because you know it isn’t absolutely correct. However, to others, it may look terrific. I, for example, like I said before, install doors a little proud of a cabinet frame on purpose. I think it draws attention to the doors and I like that.
So, as I said, I would love to see a photo (or two or three) of what you’ve got now.

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