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Forum topic by rrdesigns posted 03-22-2011 04:38 PM 1548 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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rrdesigns

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03-22-2011 04:38 PM

I am now the new owner of my first ebay “vintage” tool. Hope I made a good choice and didn’t overpay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=260752728000&si=yjTMkdEFmkCJDq%252FjmryW97Ic9ZA%253D&viewitem=

Any tips on where to go from here are appreciated. I want this to become a user tool again.

-- Beth, Oklahoma, Rambling Road Designs


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knotscott

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#1 posted 03-22-2011 04:58 PM

Looks like a fine acquisition to me! Congrats and enjoy!

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Bertha

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#2 posted 03-22-2011 04:59 PM

I can’t get the link to work but a #7 is a friend of mine. You’ll find plenty of good advice around here on plane refurb. I’m an electrolysis kind of guy but most seem to go the evaporust route. This is my second favorite plane behind my #8. Congratulations.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Bertha

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#3 posted 03-22-2011 05:01 PM

I got the link to work. It’s a little later than mine but will be a fine user. I’d pay special attention to the frog & if you’ve got to replace the blade/chipbreaker, it’s not the end of the World since you got it for a respectable price. I don’t believe that you overpaid.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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swirt

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#4 posted 03-22-2011 05:05 PM

Looks like you got a good plane. From the photos it won’t take too much to tune it.

Start by sharpening the blade (flattening the back and honing the bevel) then see what the plane directs you to do. I find the bigger planes tended to be used by people that knew how to keep them tuned so it is less likely yours will need as much work as say a more common 5 or 4…lots of people used and abused those.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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Dan

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#5 posted 03-22-2011 05:37 PM

I have a blog series on here where I go over my process of restoring old planes. I have a blog showing my #7 before and after photos. The only part I found tricky was lapping the sole of the plane flat. Its rather long so you need a nice large flat surface to do it comfortably.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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Bertha

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#6 posted 03-22-2011 05:52 PM

Dan’s right. Granite windowsill $10 at Lowes to the rescue. You’ll need some really long paper, though. I bought a large roll of 320 that I use for this purpose. Don’f forget to back the blade out but DONT take it out; the clamping of the lever cap can minimally distort the sole (Unless you’re planning on planing without the blade) :)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 03-22-2011 05:52 PM

Beth, I recently bid on one in similar condition that ended up going for a little more than you paid, so I’d say you did alright. I just snagged one a little rustier-looking for $35, and am awaiting delivery. If it cleans up nicely it will be a great deal. We’ll see.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Bertha

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#8 posted 03-22-2011 06:00 PM

Even the rustiest #7 for $35 would be something I’d jump at. Even if it were snapped in half, you could farm out the parts on Ebay and buy a pizza.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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rrdesigns

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#9 posted 03-23-2011 01:45 AM

Thanks for the helpful info. I’ll be heading over to Dan’s blog now for the heads up on plane restoration.

-- Beth, Oklahoma, Rambling Road Designs

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HorizontalMike

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#10 posted 03-23-2011 05:05 PM

QUESTION:
How much does a “hanger hole” detract from the value of an eBay jointer (possible collectible)? Any ideas?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Dan

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#11 posted 03-23-2011 06:34 PM

Charlie – I also got a #7 for around that price that was in rather poor shape. As long as the metal parts are not broken you got a great deal. I know if I re-listed mine in its restored state it would sell for a lot more then I paid.

Mike- I am not a collector but I think it will depend a lot on the age and what make plane you have. I don’t think the avg jointer plane has much of a collector value. With a hanger hole I think that would hurt the collectible value if it did have one… However a hanger hole wont effect its use at all so it would still be worth money to someone as a user plane . I would have no problem buying one with a hole in it if it was one I was going to be using in my shop.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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HorizontalMike

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#12 posted 03-23-2011 06:58 PM

Dan,
I’m looking at a #7 jointer on eBay that uses the same blade as my foreplane and thus, would be a bit more useful to me in the shop (e.g. I could swap out the Hock blade I have as needed, without having to buy another one). It is an early plane and “may” have some collectible value but definitely in need of refurbishing.

FWIW, I do NOT believe in the “untouched condition” collectibles. That is too much like trying to sell a 1957 Chevy “untouched, never washed, never waxed, never cleaned, and has ALL of it’s original motor oil, etc…” Even painting artwork, when it has damage to its paint, has acceptable “restoration” that includes replacing the missing paint to fill cracks/holes and such. So getting me to believe that it is wrong to replace/fix the paint/japanning on a rare hand plane will not happen in my life. It is a tool that should be KEPT in good order, and that means more than sharpening the blade. Whew!...and that was my soapbox.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Bertha

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#13 posted 03-23-2011 07:06 PM

I don’t like hanging holes but I’m an admitted plane snob. In a jointer-sized plane, I believe the effect on function to be absolutely nil. I suppose that if someone cranked a commercial drill press onto it, you could have associated sole malformation. I would subtract a few bucks for the hanging hole but as I said, I’ve got plane vanity issues. Speaking of your soapbox, can I join you up there? I’ll do whatever I want to my very expensive vintage planes. If it gave me more joy, I’d spraypaint them pink (I doesn’t, thankfully). I know that sounds ironic, given my opinion of the hanging hole, but it is what it is. The No. 7 is my “fore” plane, although I have a #6. I like the #8 for jointing but the #7 is probably the most used plane in my shop. You don’t have to take my word for it…see how often it appears in my blog!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Dan

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#14 posted 03-23-2011 07:33 PM

Mike- I agree with you. I have a 12 part blog series on here showing my restoration of of all of my hand planes. I have no problem repainting them and such.

If it was me I don’t think I would have any problem getting a plane with a hanger hole in it. The only issue with the hole is its appearance and your the one who will be looking at it so its on you. As for ebay value I guess I would expect to win the auction for a lower price then one without the hole granted its not a really rare make plane or a bedrock plane. You could get crazy and fill the hole with epoxy, sand it smooth and repaint it. No one but you would ever know it was there.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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racerglen

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#15 posted 03-23-2011 07:44 PM

hMM.. got a couple hanger hole planes. Metal epoxy is almost cast iron grey, paint on the top side and done..
You can still see them on the sole side, but at least it’s not ugly

;-)

-- Glen, B.C. Canada

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