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Forum topic by CharlieK posted 01-12-2018 03:24 AM 1869 views 1 time favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-12-2018 03:24 AM

Topic tags/keywords: video glue open time titebond elmers working time glue strength joint joints joinery dovetails mortise and tenon test


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I posted this as a blog post, but someone suggested that I also post it in the forum. I didn’t know we could do that! We can, right? :) I really think this is some good information. Of course, I could be biased that way. I hope you like it.

I started wondering about wood glue recently and the more I thought about it, the more I thought that I should do my own set of tests. I am interested in Working Time, how well different glues will work with veneer, and how well they will work with bent laminations.

Anyway,

I did not test for strength because Fine Woodworking did a great article on glue strength and their results were that most all glues are plenty strong enough. I also limited this to only PVA glues. I still tested EIGHT DIFFERENT GLUES, even though only PVA was in the scope of my test.

I plan to do separate tests on Working Time, Veneer, and Laminations. This first test is about Working Time. I performed three different working time tests and then averaged the results to determine which one(s) have the best working time. The biggest surprise was how poorly Tightbond III did. That was a surprise because TB III is supposed to have one of the best working times, but that is not at all what I found!

Let me know what you think about my tests.

Thanks,
Charlie

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#1 posted 01-12-2018 05:32 AM

Good stuff charlie. Thanks for all your effort.

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#2 posted 01-12-2018 06:13 AM

Interesting. I’m surprised you didn’t test Elmer’s Carpenter’s Glue. In my experience, the Elmer’s Carpenter glue has very fast tack, much like trim glue, which is why I keep some around. Sometimes you want it to grab fast. That video must have taken a lot of time.

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#3 posted 01-12-2018 07:25 AM

Well done, Charlie. I’ve used TB III specifically because of the reportedly longer working times. I’d just as soon save a few bucks and use Elmer’s in the future.

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#4 posted 01-12-2018 06:39 PM



Interesting. I m surprised you didn t test Elmer s Carpenter s Glue. In my experience, the Elmer s Carpenter glue has very fast tack, much like trim glue, which is why I keep some around. Sometimes you want it to grab fast. That video must have taken a lot of time.

- Rick_M


Thanks Rick. I agree that sometimes you want something that grabs fast. I also didn’t mention in my test that sometimes you just want something that dries quickly so you can get on with it! You are the 2nd person already who asked about Elmers Carpenter Glue. Actually, there are several more glues that I wish I had tested, but I had a pretty large group to begin with.

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#5 posted 01-12-2018 06:41 PM



Well done, Charlie. I ve used TB III specifically because of the reportedly longer working times. I d just as soon save a few bucks and use Elmer s in the future.

- Ripper70


Yep! I used to think that was a good selling point for TB III, but now it’s hard to justify the extra cost.

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#6 posted 01-12-2018 08:09 PM

I’ve been using titebond2 for a long time and have been pretty well satisfied with it. After watching the video though I will look at some other glues to possibly use when time is a factor. I watched all the video and really enjoyed it. I really liked the way it was done. The Unibond one glue is interesting, I don’t really know the price of it or whether it’s worth paying extra for, but it seemed to perform well. Looking forward to your next viedo. Keep up the good work.
Gerald

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#7 posted 01-12-2018 09:24 PM



I ve been using titebond2 for a long time and have been pretty well satisfied with it. After watching the video though I will look at some other glues to possibly use when time is a factor. I watched all the video and really enjoyed it. I really liked the way it was done. The Unibond one glue is interesting, I don t really know the price of it or whether it s worth paying extra for, but it seemed to perform well. Looking forward to your next viedo. Keep up the good work.
Gerald

- alittleoff


Thanks Gerald, Unibond One isn’t terribly expensive if you buy it by the gallon. However, that does not include shipping. From what I could tell, Better Bond was very similar to Unibond. Better Bond doesn’t explicitly claim to be good for bent laminations, but I suspect that the two of them are similar in that way too. I’ll find out when I perform the bent lamination test.

https://www.vacupress.com/product-category/veneering-glue/unibond-one/
https://www.vacupress.com/product-category/veneering-glue/unibond-one/

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