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Forum topic by popmandude posted 03-20-2011 12:52 AM 1815 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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03-20-2011 12:52 AM

Hello all
I lucked into my first 3 old stanley planes today. One is an old stanley bailey 4 1/2. It needs a new brass screw in the tote.( the short front screw) Can some one please tell me what size screws these are, and maybe where to get them. I have tried 2 big box hardware stores, and one small town hardware, an every one just scratches their head.

Thanks for any help
Randy


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#1 posted 03-20-2011 01:14 AM

You definitley won’t find them there. Do a Google search. “Stanley plane parts” There are also some on ebay usually.

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#2 posted 03-20-2011 01:19 AM

Thanks dbol. Done the google search an was hoping to get one cheaper than $8.00 an don’t really care for ebay. Reckon if those are my only choices I’ll have to get over it.

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#3 posted 03-20-2011 01:24 AM

You could also just keep your eyes out for garage sales and flea markets. I think the 4 1/2 will accept similar parts from other stanley planes. I found a no. 5 at the habitat for humanity for a few bucks but it is missing a knob I will just use it for parts.

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#4 posted 03-20-2011 01:47 AM

Nonsense, I say!
I took one of my Stanley 4 1/2s apart and measured. What you need, popmandude, is a 12-24 thread, oval-head screw, measuring 1.75 inches long. Preferably in brass, and a flat-head screw might suffice, as long as it matches the countersunk hole in the front knob. Granted, a 12/24 is a weird size, most everyone uses 1/4-20’s which are slightly bigger at 0.250 clearance diameter. Please do not attempt to drill and tap to a more common thread size!!! Last time I saw 12/24’s was for attaching hinge hardware on steel commercial doors. Remember that with flat-head and oval heads the length includes the head itself when you measure. (Capscrews and round heads you measure from UNDER the head to the tip.) Find a hardware store that has been around for a long, long time. They’ll have them for sure. there’s a few people specializing in fasteners in their eBay stores; don’t pay big $$$ for a Stanley screw unless the seller can state precisely what size screw he wants to sell you. Here’s an example, though I cannot vouch for the seller or listing, but for a visual here ya are: http://cgi.ebay.ca/12-24x2-Oval-Slotted-Machine-Screw-Stainless-Steel-10-/160516452314?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255f86afda Good Luck!

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#5 posted 03-20-2011 01:56 AM

If you need a 12-24 screw you should be able to go to a fastener store and buy one. They might have to order it but that shouldn’t be difficult. We have 3 such stores in our town of 23,000 people so I would think you could get this. Poopiekat has you set up.

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#6 posted 03-20-2011 01:57 AM

You can find out what ‘type’ or year your plane is from using a type chart
That way it will be easier to get the correct part. I’m pretty sure that most of the planes threads are an odd size that you wont find in any hardware store,, unless you tap the hole to a normal thread size. For parts you can try contacting Dowds Tools or walt at brass city

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#7 posted 03-20-2011 02:18 AM

Hey, popmandude!! Whoa, hold on… Do you mean the ‘short front screw’ as in the front knob, or that short screw in the front of the rear tote? If that’s the one, you’d need: ”12-24 X 7/16 Round Head slotted” screw, though it looks like a 3/8” length would do.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#8 posted 03-20-2011 02:45 AM

Thanks to all. Yea pk I knew 1.75 would be a bit long. If 12-24 dont work reckon I will buy a 1/4-20 tap as it’s likely I will see this again in the future. Looking forward to getting these cleaned up, tuned up, an makin some shavings.
Good week end to all
Randy

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#9 posted 03-20-2011 02:50 AM

Get a bottom tap so it will thread to the bottom of the hole. Good luck

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#10 posted 03-20-2011 04:24 AM

I am not a purist when it comes to restoring some things. I have found a source for these screws and also handles for planes. Check out Highlandwoodworking.com or call 800-241-674. They have handles for both front and rear and also screw. these fit Record, Stanley and other Bailey patterened planes.age 18 in the fall 2010 catalog

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#11 posted 03-20-2011 12:57 PM

It’s been a long time since I uttered these words, but…....thanks grandpa.
Good day to all
Randy

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#12 posted 04-04-2011 03:05 AM

Please tell us how you made out on your Stanley plane screw issue, if you feel it’s worthwhile.

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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