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BreakingBoardom

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03-19-2011 09:15 AM

Topic tags/keywords: hand plane help identify old stanley question

OK, so my dad picked up an old hand plane for me from an antique store last weekend while he was at the coast. I picked it up today and was expecting maybe a Stanley. Instead I got what is pictured below and have no clue as to what kind it is or if it’s been pieced together or what. Not many words or letters or numbers on it except for “Made In USA” on the body and “Worth” on the iron. I’m not expecting this to be some lost heirloom plane worth a fortune but rather something I can restore and use. Anyone know what it is or if it’ll make a decent plane when cleaned up? Thanks in advance for the help.

-- Matt - http://breakingboardom.wordpress.com/


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lewis62

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#1 posted 03-19-2011 01:31 PM

go to www.hansbrunnertools.gil.com.au should give you a site with all stanely planes by the numbers and with discriptions. Also check out ,patricks blood and gore planes at supertool .com sorry dont have exact address, but that should get you there.

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#2 posted 03-19-2011 01:58 PM

I don´t know what plane , but it doesn´t look too bad to clean up and make a good user
if not as a smoother then you can change it to bee a scrubplane
but go for the smoother first

Dennis

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Jack_T

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#3 posted 03-19-2011 01:59 PM

It is a hand plane. You hold the wooden part and push. The sharp part goes down. LOL. Sorry, I have just exhausted my entire knowledge base on old/antique planes; wait, I also jst exhausted my entire knowledge base on new planes as well. Looks like another area I need to learn a lot about. Oh well, looks like it is back to those things that we still make out of wood, you know we call them books.

-- Jack T, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life."

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#4 posted 03-19-2011 02:56 PM

It was definitely not a high-end plane for its time. You can tell because the frog is stamped rather than machined. Having said that, clean it up and see how well it works. It’s probably better than some of the cheap planes that I have. I have better ones now, but still use the cheap Ace hardware plane and a few others that I’ve had for years, just for easing edges and other small jobs.

-- Dale Manning, Carthage, NY

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#5 posted 03-19-2011 03:14 PM

Definitely not a premium plane, but definitely fairly old….probably pre-WWII. It should be better than the majority of economy planes sold today. Put an edge on it, adjust it, and give it a go.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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BreakingBoardom

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#6 posted 03-19-2011 07:11 PM

Thanks for the help so far guys. Yeah, I hadn’t seen one like it or ever seen anything stamped “Worth” before. I’ll have to get it cleaned up to see how it does. I noticed the frog was stamped too instead of machined. Anyone ever used one with a stamped frog before? Does it create any problems or challenges?

-- Matt - http://breakingboardom.wordpress.com/

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bent

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#7 posted 03-19-2011 08:39 PM

i have 2 that are nearly identical to that. they don’t have “worth” stamped on them, but have a circled u above the “made in usa” marking. they may have different branding, but i bet they’re the same planes as yours. i’ve looked and can’t find any info on them. they preform just fine, but i doubt they’re worth anything to a collector.

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Loren

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#8 posted 03-19-2011 09:57 PM

I’ve seen or owned plane irons marked “Worth”. They aren’t
that uncommon. I think I’ve seen them in coffin planes.

The folded steel frog indicates it’s a “handyman” grade plane.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#9 posted 03-19-2011 10:58 PM

unfortunately the stamped frog planes are about the cheapest you can get. If you picked up a stanley no.4 at a flea market for $10 and tried both planes side by side you would throw that plane away . Not worth restoring or using. If anything, save the blade and chipbreaker. You can google “parplus planes”, who I believe may have made the body of yours.

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#10 posted 03-19-2011 11:14 PM

These plane were mast production type plane. Most parts were stamp out which aren’t he best of quality in doing hand planning. You can spend plenty of time turning it up , but in the end the lack of mass will cause vibration which will cause chatter marks when cutting. Although you could use on softer type woods like pine, poplar and others. Although the body has volume/weight the frog body is rather light weight and so the adjustment part as well and this is where the down sized of this unit begins. Hope this helps on this unit…BC

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BreakingBoardom

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#11 posted 03-21-2011 08:10 PM

Thanks for all the help guys. Even though this may not be a great user plane due to the stamped frog, I’ll probably clean it up to get a little more acquainted with hand planes and use it as a starter plane until I find one a more usable one with a machined frog. I’m pretty new to hand planes and I figure since I have it I might as well learn a few things and try using it. Thanks again everyone.

-- Matt - http://breakingboardom.wordpress.com/

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#12 posted 03-21-2011 08:26 PM

Nothing that hasn’t been said above, but I don’t think you’ll be happy with a plane that uses stamped components. The fit just can’t ever really get there. If you ever get the chance to do a side-by-side with a Bedrock of similar size, go for it. This will highlight the worst frog/best frog argument. Whatever you do, don’t give up! Once you get a vintage plane tuned to your liking, it’ll be worth any time and investment you made. I promise.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#13 posted 03-21-2011 09:34 PM

I agree that this plane may not be the best for a heavy user plane but I would clean it up and like you said use as a starter. Also if you enjoy the process you can keep this one for parts. I have several planes just like this that I have used for parts.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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#14 posted 03-21-2011 10:10 PM

A couple of options come to mind:
a) Camber the blade heavily and it will function as a decent scrub plane.

b) Secondary planes like this are handy for cleaning up wood that is too “dirty” to use your good plane on.

c) If you have a child, remove the blade and let them use it as a toy.

d) grind some kind of profile in the blade (not too deep) that you like for creating beading or a curved indentation and use along a clamped on fence to create that profile in your creations. (not a perfect solution for a beading plane, but it will work.

e) Use the blade and chipbreaker to make a wood bodied hand plane to suit your style. (there are a bunch here on LJ’s)

f) Use it as a paperweight in your office. It will ignite some interesting conversation with co-workers.

g) If you really want to make other LJ’s drool, remove the frog and do some work to make it infilled with some beautiful piece of exotic wood.

-- Galootish log blog, http://www.timberframe-tools.com

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BreakingBoardom

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#15 posted 03-21-2011 10:20 PM

Haha. Thanks Swirt. I do have some Koa I could put in it. Don’t know if that’d make other LJ’s jealous or just think I’m crazy. lol.

-- Matt - http://breakingboardom.wordpress.com/

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