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NickM

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01-05-2018 01:55 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw saw hardwood advice beginner tool wood shop

Hello all,

I am just getting into woodworking. For the last year I have done a good amount of milling oak trees into lumber.

Now, I am trying to get a wood shop. I have built a few small tables but nothing to much yet. I have basic tools such a miter saw, belt sander, jigsaw, and a few other small tools.

I am looking to purchase my first table saw and could use some advise. I have been doing some research and there is so much out there to pick from.

My budget is around 1,200$. I will be doing a lot of thicker hardwood cuts, sometimes on boards that are slightly warped. I have 220V power in my garage as well.

Any recommendations are greatly appreciated!


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01ntrain

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#1 posted 01-05-2018 02:39 PM

For starters, if you’re working with warped lumber, you will want a jointer. Or, if you have the inclination and energy….some good hand planes. A good jointer can be indispensable in a shop.

A good table saw doesn’t have to be the most expensive one on the block. It involves a combination of a good fence, proper blades, and precise setup. This can be achieved with some of the cheaper, more serviceable options. i.e. Craftsman 113, older Ridgid TS, etc. A lot of good info can be had here with the search function.

Don’t be afraid to consider used equipment. Most of my shop is filled with used equipment. The only new stuff I have bought has been for my business. Depending what area you’re in, Craigslist or Nextdoor can be your friend. Also consider estate auctions, Ebay, etc.

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bbasiaga

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#2 posted 01-05-2018 03:36 PM

Agreed, you do not want warped pieces cut on a table saw. High danger there. So get a way to flatten them. Alternatively, a band saw could be used for some cuts on warped lumber, but ultimately you will want to find a way to flatten before taking the m to the table saw.

Brian

-- Part of engineering is to know when to put your calculator down and pick up your tools.

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NickM

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#3 posted 01-05-2018 03:38 PM

Thank you for the advice, that is very helpful. I have been looking at a jointer as well. This is an expensive hobby to get in to! But, I have always wanted to my entire life.

I have been looking for a few weeks in my area at used table saws and unfortunately, nothing good yet. Mostly low quality in bad shape.

Do you have any experience or opinion on a Shopsmith Mark V?

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01ntrain

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#4 posted 01-05-2018 03:57 PM

No experiences, but coming from a machines background….I wouldn’t go there.

I might get it for the lathe functionality, and use the other stuff in a pinch, but IMO it’s just so limited in what you can do with it…..as far as the add-ons are concerned. I get it that in a lot of places that machine is going for peanuts, but at the end of the day it’s a machine that has quite a few limitations. You’re not going to find anyone here that makes their products strictly using a Shopsmith.

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#5 posted 01-05-2018 09:41 PM


Thank you for the advice, that is very helpful. I have been looking at a jointer as well. This is an expensive hobby to get in to! But, I have always wanted to my entire life.

I have been looking for a few weeks in my area at used table saws and unfortunately, nothing good yet. Mostly low quality in bad shape.

Do you have any experience or opinion on a Shopsmith Mark V?

- NickM

Where are you located?
If you have a 1200 budget you ought to be able to get a used TS and a jointer for that. It’s not uncommon to see used unisaws for 600-800 in my area (CT). New belts and bearings and you’re good to go for decades of hobby level work. It shouldn’t be too tough to get an older 8” jointer for $350-400

Outside of used, I’d be looking hard at grizzly if I had that price range. You’re a little too low for a 1023 but there have been threads starting to pop up here about the new 833 that would probably be worth looking at

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#6 posted 01-05-2018 09:42 PM

dupe – deleated

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#7 posted 01-05-2018 10:25 PM

I am in Cleveland , Ohio.
I did find this unisaw that is 10 minutes from my house but I was worried due to the age of it. What are your thoughts?
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls/d/vintage-10-delta-unisaw-table/6447759157.html

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01ntrain

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#8 posted 01-05-2018 10:30 PM

I’d be more inclined to do this one….

https://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls/d/ridgid-table-saw/6447406630.html

Nothing wrong with the Unisaw, and it would be a good buy….but it does have some limitations. The fence isn’t that great, and I believe that it’s right-tilt. Not a huge deal, but could be troublesome.

That Ridgid, OTOH, is the one that you want, as far as the used Ridgids go.

But, if you really want a Unisaw, I’d go for it. I wish it was that close to me…..I’d jump on it. My Unifence would bolt right on it.

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#9 posted 01-05-2018 10:36 PM

Nick check some public auctions in your area. Some schools are upgrading to sawstops and selling off decent table saws.

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#10 posted 01-05-2018 11:10 PM


I did find this unisaw that is 10 minutes from my house but I was worried due to the age of it. What are your thoughts?
https://cleveland.craigslist.org/tls/d/vintage-10-delta-unisaw-table/6447759157.html

- NickM

When it comes to table saws (and a few other shop tools like jointers), old isn’t necessarily a bad thing particularly if the machine is in good condition.

-- "You know, I'm such a great driver, it's incomprehensible that they took my license away." --Vince Ricardo

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#11 posted 01-05-2018 11:50 PM

I have the Grizzly 1023. No problems encountered in the past 5 years.

Also, if your board is bowed (like a banana), a track saw (either store bought or home made) will be your best bet to rip a straight edge. Then you can use it on the table saw.

When I encounter boards like mentioned, I try to cross cut them into manageable lengths and then rip them with the track saw.

Hope this helps.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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MrUnix

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#12 posted 01-06-2018 12:11 AM

That is a nice Unisaw, but it’s only a 1hp and it’s way overpriced IMO. Keep looking. If you are willing to do a little cleaning and maintenance, and if you play your cards right – with $1200, you can completely outfit your shop (TS, jointer, planer, band saw, drill press, etc…) with some pretty high end equipment and still have a little left over for wood :)

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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msinc

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#13 posted 01-06-2018 12:13 AM

Nothing to do with machines, but I would suggest that you don’t stop gathering rough cut lumber…i did pretty much the same thing you are describing when I got back into wood and milled a huge wild black cherry. I failed to have but one other tree milled in the time I was drying it and am getting worried I will run out of my own stuff and have to go and purchase someone else’s boards. Just one of those things i didn’t really think about much until I got dangerously close to run out.
Woodworking doesn’t have to be too expensive of a hobby if you make a few things and sell them to fund other equipment and tools. Better an old used but decent machine than a brand new inadequate one. My personal experience with the Shopsmith is that it is okay if you have limited room to work, but you quickly get tired of switching it back and forth to do things and it is somewhat small and limited anyways. If you have the room to put separate machines I would not even think about a Shopsmith.

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TheFridge

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#14 posted 01-06-2018 12:15 AM

Get. It. Now.

You might be able to find something cheaper but it’ll take some time.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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avsmusic1

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#15 posted 01-06-2018 02:10 AM


That is a nice Unisaw, but it s only a 1hp and it s way overpriced IMO.

- MrUnix

I agree w/ this. My first big boy saw was an 80s unisaw w/ a 1hp motor and beis fence which I bought before I had 220. Great saw and I think I paid 450 which is reasonable for both parties in my area.

Also, if looking for tips on used equipment, brad here (MrUnix) is a guy to listen to

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