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Karda

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01-05-2018 06:29 AM

Hi, what do those of you who use diamond hones use for a lubricant, i read some where that water or oil are to thick


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nwbusa

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#1 posted 01-05-2018 07:28 AM

I use mine dry.

-- John, BC, Canada

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#2 posted 01-05-2018 07:31 AM

I use water. Been using it successfully for ten years or so. There is a risk of rust, so you need to dry the stone after use, but I haven’t had any serious rust damage yet.

You might consider this product (Trend Lapping Fluid)—it costs more than water but eliminates the rust issue.

-- Jerry, making sawdust professionally since 1976

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#3 posted 01-05-2018 07:36 AM

I don’t use diamonds much but when I do I just use a little water. This video will answer a lot of question about diamond stones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBND6emsSE4

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#4 posted 01-05-2018 02:40 PM

I used water until hearing the recommendation from Rob Cosman to use HoneRite. There are a few versions, I thought I was using the cheaper one and bought #1 which it turns out is used straight while the HoneRite Gold is the one you add to water, but a higher initial; cost. I’m a hobbyist and doubt I’ll be sharpening more than every other month, I’ve noticed that the #1 does do a better job of staying on the plate and extending the length of time I can keep sharpening as opposed to water. When I finally kill the can of #1 I’ll get the gold and see how that works

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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#5 posted 01-05-2018 03:53 PM

I use Windex. I think Paul Sellers recommended it.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#6 posted 01-05-2018 06:07 PM

I use diluted Simple Green (it’s great for lots of cleaning tasks too) and it works well for me. I keep it in a cleaned out sriracha bottle…easy to dispense. and easy to see the contents.

-- Mike from Lansdowne, PA

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#7 posted 01-05-2018 06:14 PM

I don’t have a sriracha bottle, would a sweet Thai chili bottle work?

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#8 posted 01-05-2018 06:18 PM

I recently discovered this DMT 600 grit diamond hone. It’s a pretty good bargain, and a good general purpose hone for planes and chisels. You use it wet or dry, just no oil.

Available in-stock at Home Depot.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/DMT-6-in-Diamond-Whetstone-Bench-Stone-with-Rubber-Feet-6Fine/206750733

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#9 posted 01-05-2018 08:28 PM

Only Diamond stone I ever use is the one to flatten my Water Stones, use water to remove waste.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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#10 posted 01-05-2018 08:42 PM



I don t have a sriracha bottle, would a sweet Thai chili bottle work?

- pintodeluxe

Nope not quite as well, that bottle has no nipple

-- I've decided 1 mistake is really 2 opportunities to learn.. learn how to fix it... and learn how to not repeat it

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Karda

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#11 posted 01-05-2018 08:55 PM

t hanks for the suggestions the only problem I have with any of it is I don’t have a sriracha bottle all I have is plain old hot sauce or Tabasco will that work

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#12 posted 01-05-2018 09:07 PM

Diluted Simple Green works well.

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#13 posted 03-05-2018 02:40 AM

++ Simple green or windex

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Karda

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#14 posted 03-05-2018 03:14 AM

thanks for the simple green tip ll try that or windex

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#15 posted 03-05-2018 03:21 AM

Water or oil, they are NOT lubricants. The very last thing you need is some kind of juice that prevents abrasion, OK? You are in this for metal cutting. Hard, sharp and fast, then smooooooth soft and fine for the finish.
By definition, the water or oil is a vehicle to carry away, to wash away, the swarf of metal particles and smashed abrasive. That keeps the abrasive cutting at the nominal grit particle size rate. Dr Google will tell you what does not work.

I suggest that you visit several commercial machine shops and watch how the oil-based coolants wash off the work face.

I have been a wood carver for some time.
I need to tune up my carving tools after no more than 30-40 minute steady work. No surprise but the edges on $50 gouges do not last forever. They are made for constant tune ups to sing in the wood. Even my old ears can hear it.

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