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skozub

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259 days ago

I’m putting a larger cove molding on a piece for a client that will need mitered returns. I’ll assemble the crown together before I attach it to the piece by using a glue-up jig that helps ensure the mitered joints come together at a 90 degree corner. The set up is a piece of MDF with a two pieces of wood at the corners that give me a perfect 90 degree angle…I put the crown upside down and butt the top pieces together inside of this corner to form a perfect connection. However, what to do once that glue is on…as we know, that stuff makes to a bit slippery so without added holding power I’m fearful it will slide around on me.

I’ve toyed with using the biscuit jointer to help line them up but b/c of the angle I’ve had a hard time getting them to line up the way I’d hoped.

I can set up the table saw on a 45 and cut a grove in both pieces then use a spline to help with alignment.

or I could use a pair of spring miter clamps.

I made a pair of ogee bracket feet a while back and had the pleasure of using a set of Ulmia Spring Miter clamps when I lived in Denver; but now I’m on my own and need a more affordable option (I think the set is ~$175)

Does anyone have suggestions on the best approach here?
Are spring miter clamps a worthwhile investment? I found some from Collins Tool company that are more reasonably priced…but it’s a specialty tool that might not show its face but a few times a year (is that worth it). Any one have an opinion on the spring clamps and the various options?

Thanks!

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normand

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258 days ago

Hi mate,

I am fairly familiar with large moldings; but while mine are composed of multiple pieces, averaging 4-9 sections, amounting to massive crowns I have not faced your problem directly.

Still the basic principle of regulating the location [ translates to determining a fixed point ] may be worth considering.

If I understand this aright the jig that you use limits forward/backward movement by use of some type of stop allowing you to pre- join the mitered sections.
I have never pre- assembled a crown in this mannor, but have come up with a system that works for me even for lenghts of 16”.

The trick amounts to a ” NO-GO ” gauge and requires nothing more than a rabbit cut into one member.
The rabbit itself can be a modest 1/8” to 3/16” deep but it still provides a positive point of reference that traps the applied molding from traveling even when little pressure is applied.
Having once determined the final location of the face or return pieces they can be pinned,etc.
Although I use titebond 3 almost always, they also make a heavy bodied , no run, no drip, molding glue that I found worked as advertised.

Holding the corners true at the miters if assembly dictates no nails/pins will require special spring clamps etc.; but I have never run across a job that rquired joinery that relied on glue alone.
I.e a good finish will well conceal any nail hole that I have ever seen.

If the work itself is square and you have taken the pains as is evident in your work I cannot see where the mold will not marry up just as you hope.

I wish that I had a picture of this but maybe someone else can provide one.

Ps.Generally speaking the simpler that you can keep any method the better.

I hope that this may be of some help, Norm.

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Al Killian

203 posts in 281 days


258 days ago

I would rather put it together on the peice. This would allow the mold to set flush to the peice. Biscuits will work for the corners to help keep it together.

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