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ProtegeLongbows

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03-17-2011 01:53 AM

Freud? Makita? Triton? Bosch? Other?


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#1 posted 03-17-2011 02:29 AM

If all you care about is the most power for the lowest retail
price in a new router, probably Freud is the one.

Value, however, is a different story. The only Freud tool
I’ve owned was a biscuit joiner and the design was not very
good. I wouldn’t buy the same tool again. Maybe the
router designs are better, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#2 posted 03-17-2011 02:36 AM

I tend to lean toward the Bosch for the 3+ router models.

-- Williamsburg, KY

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#3 posted 03-17-2011 02:51 AM

There are a bunch of good 15 amp routers…which is best is subjective depending on your needs and preferences. The Freud FT3000 has been on sale in the $200 range lately, which is a nice deal for that router. It features a long collet that protrudes thru the table and an auto collet lock that makes for easy one handed topside bit changes. It also has above table height adjust and above table height lock. At that price its tough to beat this one for features, power, and value IMHO. (definitely a better design than their biscuit cutter!)

The big Triton is one of the few big routers that has comparable features as the FT3000….compare sale prices.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#4 posted 03-17-2011 03:16 AM

knotscott-

Of the two what would you pick, the Freud over the Triton ???

I was thinking of getting a 3 hp but the price changed my mind…

since the price as come down there back in the race…

-- Rick

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ProtegeLongbows

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#5 posted 03-17-2011 03:21 AM

Knotscott,

Where did you find it close to $200? The best price I have been able to find it around 300 plus shipping. Although I like to buy local to support local business, that router is $500 around here (on many other items our local merchant is pretty competitive…but that is not the case on routers), so it looks I will be buying my router on line regardless of which one I choose.

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#6 posted 03-17-2011 03:23 AM

We run a 3.5 HP Milwaukee in our shop and I love it. I believe it is quite expensive though and very strong.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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#7 posted 03-17-2011 03:39 AM

Awhile back, I bought the Woodpeckers PRL together with the PC 7518 motor. They sold the motor for $275. Don’t know if those deals are still around, but Woodpeckers still runs these offers from time to time.

-- Gene T

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#8 posted 03-17-2011 04:34 AM

For my router table, I have the PC 7518 and the PRL V2lift. Absolutely love this set up. Fro the freehand stuff, I have the Hitachi M12 3 1/4 hp plunge router. This thing is a dream to work with. I got my Hitachi on Amazon for $189 and free freight and no taxes.

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#9 posted 03-17-2011 04:47 AM

I have the Milwaukee 3.5 horse as well.Well worth the money.

-- New Auburn,WI

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#10 posted 03-17-2011 05:14 AM

I did a little search on the milwaukee, and if I am looking at the right 3.5 hp one it is anymore expensive than thee others (less than $300), but doesn’t have a plunger base.

I will be using the router on a table with a template pattern and a 2” straight bit that is on a roller bearing to cut hardwoods like bubinga, cocobollo, etc that has a 1/4” phenolic laminate stip in it. Prior to using the router, it the piece will be rough cut with a bandsaw, but I would like to use the router to get exacting specs (prior to some minor sanding).

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#11 posted 03-17-2011 05:27 AM

Do you need the small diameter of router cutters to follow the
pattern?

I think you’ll get a lower reject rate with a shaper. Those pattern-following
router bits can really tear up your wood. Not that a shaper can’t
but there’s more flexibility for pattern cutting with a shaper.

Pin routing is another way to go – it offers the ability to use various
forms of spiral cutters instead of the limited selection of available
pilot-bearing straight cutters.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#12 posted 03-17-2011 06:40 AM

I don’t need a small diameter cutter. My reason for choosing to go with a router over a shaper is ONLY because of the following. If you think a shaper is better, I am open to the idea.

1. A router and table both can be obtained for about $500-600, while it seems a good shaper would be at least $900…and could be much more than that.

2. A variable speed router would allow me to use it at both high and low rpms…but with a shaper it seems as if the max would be slightly over 10,000 rpms…not that I would need to go faster but with the variable speed router I have the option to do so if I wanted to.

3. Cost of bits,

4. versatility for other projects.

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#13 posted 03-17-2011 12:47 PM

Rick – I’m more familiar with the FT3000 so would naturally gravitate to that, but I read a lot of comments from happy owners of the Triton too…honestly, I’d probably compare prices and go with the better deal.

PLB – IIRC, Woodcraft had the Freud for $199. I’ve seen the Triton in that range recently too. The MW5625 is very well built beast of a router….it’s impressive, and performance wise I’ve been very happy with it, but its only got pretty basic features except for above table height adjust. I really prefer the convenience features of my smaller FT1700. I’ve also used the Bosch 1619, Makita 3612, and big Hitachi M12V, and thought all were very capable…. It all boils down to preference. Have you considered building your own router table?

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#14 posted 03-17-2011 05:28 PM

Of these two bits…both of which are 2” length bearing bits for guided cutting and both will work for the pattern I will have…which would provide a better cut? How thin can the 2” board be and it still cut good?

http://www.toolmarts.com/frd_42-204.html

http://www.toolmarts.com/freud_50138.html

Also, how difficult and expensive is it to build a good router table if looks are NOT of any concern, but accuracy and dust collection are?

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#15 posted 03-17-2011 07:13 PM

knotscott-

I have Norms table with 890 in the older smaller plate from Rockler with 4 inserts…

-- Rick

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