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Forum topic by MrRon posted 12-29-2017 07:16 PM 1715 views 1 time favorited 41 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-29-2017 07:16 PM

What’s with the new HF labeling of their products? They are now giving “brand names” to most of their products. Previously they only had a few “brand names”, like Badlands, Pittsburg, Central Machinery, Predator, U.S. General, etc. Now new “brand names” have popped up, like Hercules, Yukon, Vulcan, Viking, Fischer, Warrior and more. By applying a name to a junk product, are they trying to dupe the public into thinking their tools are as good as the well known name brands, like Dewalt, Porter Cable, Bosch, etc. I’m sure it’s a marketing strategy directed towards those who are not knowledgeable about tools in general. Reviews on their tools still reveal basic faults. The faults that are the worst are the ones that totally make the tool inoperable. Things like “too heavy” or “poor balance” or even “poor battery life” can be accepted, but total failure places that tool in the “junk” category. As others have noted, HF does have a few “gems” to their credit. I have a few of them and I give credit where credit is due. I also have some that are pure junk. I would caution anyone going to buy from HF to do some investigating by reading reviews before buying. At least, their return policy is very good. When buying anything from HF or any one else for that matter, to use it as soon as you get it and put it through it’s paces to see if any failures if hidden will show up before the warranty period is up, usually 30 days. That can save a lot of grief and expense. I would further recommend visiting a store instead of ordering on line.


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#1 posted 12-29-2017 07:30 PM

“By applying a name to a junk product, are they trying to dupe the public into thinking their tools are as good as the well known name brands, like Dewalt, Porter Cable, Bosch, etc…”

There stuff doesn’t cost as much as those brands and for a lot of folks Harbor Freight is good enough. It’s certainly no worse than names that used to be decent like Craftsman and Black & Decker or Stanley.

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#2 posted 12-29-2017 07:50 PM



“By applying a name to a junk product, are they trying to dupe the public into thinking their tools are as good as the well known name brands, like Dewalt, Porter Cable, Bosch, etc…”

There stuff doesn t cost as much as those brands and for a lot of folks Harbor Freight is good enough. It s certainly no worse than names that used to be decent like Craftsman and Black & Decker or Stanley.

- dhazelton


My H-F adventures have been both good and bad. I have had fantastic luck with their sanding belts; the best bargain I have found on those.

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#3 posted 12-29-2017 10:00 PM

Last I heard HF was trying to drastically improve their quality and image by coming up with new products that would compete directly with name brands like Porter-Cable, Makita, Milwaukee, Dewalt, etc. I think this is just the first steps along that route. For what it is worth, I think it’s my favorite store for a whole lot of things.

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#4 posted 12-29-2017 10:45 PM

If you haven’t noticed, those brand names are also listed on their 20%-Off coupons as not qualifying for the discount.

Has anyone bought any of these names and still received the discount?

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#5 posted 12-29-2017 10:54 PM



If you haven t noticed, those brand names are also listed on their 20%-Off coupons as not qualifying for the discount.

Has anyone bought any of these names and still received the discount?

- 01ntrain

Nope. All the new brand names don’t qualify. I returned an item because of this as my 20% coupon was applied to a different, cheaper, item automatically. It does say it on the coupon as well. If you hunt out the new brand names on YouTube, you’ll see that Bauer, Hercules, Earthquake, Daytona, etc are actually surprisingly good. Hercules even has Jacob chuck on them…I mean, that’s a real well known brand name with a good rep. HF is making an effort and all the tool breakdown channels are showing HF is really doing a decent job.

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#6 posted 12-29-2017 10:59 PM

The Hercules tools are not even close to being the same as the regular HF tools. Quality electronic components, good, clean machining, many machined parts instead of cast. If you don’t want to spend name brand money for certain tools, look at the Hercules line and you can save a few bucks. However, if you can wait and catch a good sale, sometimes the bigger name brands will be priced really close if not the same as the Hercules brand.

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#7 posted 12-29-2017 11:18 PM

Nope. All the new brand names don t qualify. I returned an item because of this as my 20% coupon was applied to a different, cheaper, item automatically. It does say it on the coupon as well. If you hunt out the new brand names on YouTube, you ll see that Bauer, Hercules, Earthquake, Daytona, etc are actually surprisingly good. Hercules even has Jacob chuck on them…I mean, that s a real well known brand name with a good rep. HF is making an effort and all the tool breakdown channels are showing HF is really doing a decent job.

- Rayne

Yeah, I had read it and understood the coupon, but was wondering if anyone had seen a more lenient store policy.

As far as some of the new brands, I’ve got the Bauer demo hammer for my business and that thing is beast.
I have all of my tools stored in their 42” tool chest….it’s a hell of a deal compared to some of the other brands, let alone Snapon, Kennedy, etc. etc.

I’m also eyeballing that new rolling workbench that they’re offering under the Yukon brand. Good storage. Would replace the top with my own.

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#8 posted 12-29-2017 11:25 PM

i have never been successful trying to use any of the 20 plus percent coupons on sale items, its pretty clear on the coupon, whilst a few years ago i understand it was possible, but according to staff, computer now decides at register if coupon can be used. modern age i guess, or perhaps an overide from staff

and i agree on the baur demo mid size hammer, picked up a couple and the boys seem to think its a boon over the old chitown unit
Rj in az

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#9 posted 12-30-2017 12:04 AM



i have never been successful trying to use any of the 20 plus percent coupons on sale items, its pretty clear on the coupon, whilst a few years ago i understand it was possible, but according to staff, computer now decides at register if coupon can be used. modern age i guess, or perhaps an overide from staff

and i agree on the baur demo mid size hammer, picked up a couple and the boys seem to think its a boon over the old chitown unit
Rj in az

- Knockonit

You can use it on sale items; just not on items that require a code to get the sale price since they won’t take 2 coupons on the same item.

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#10 posted 12-30-2017 02:06 PM

^ wtf?

82 posts in six hours – busy spammer.

Back on topic – I don’t quite get why they came out with a premium lithium ion line under two names- Bauer and Hercules. Products look pretty similar.

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#11 posted 12-30-2017 03:08 PM

Was in a store the other night….picked a “Warrior” brand Brass wire wheel for my 6” grinder. Will see later, IF it is any better than the one I got at Menard’s last year…...getting tired of picking wires out of my shirt.

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#12 posted 12-30-2017 03:53 PM

It used to be they would play off well known US brands like Chicago electric (vs Chicago Pneumatic).

They need better names for their really low quality stuff, perhaps “Kamikaze”.

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#13 posted 12-30-2017 04:38 PM

I know someone who has purchased their lathe and is very happy with it. Has anyone else purchased the lathe from HF? I want to know if it is worth it for a starter into woodturning.

-- nutmegger13, Connecticut

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Knockonit

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#14 posted 12-30-2017 09:23 PM

I picked up a lathe, second hand, fella decided he didnt take to turning, had lotsa tools and misc. with it, bought it for a song, but had to run to dang near tucson to pick up., I essentially bought the turning tools, new tail piece, chuck and some other items, the lathe was more or less free.
So with that said, legs are crap, i built a large, long work bench on wheels, top out of melamine, and 4x and 2x frame, i made it rather wide as i’m gong to put the small mini jet lathe on the opposite side and opposite end (tail stock of big one) so i have them together.

Now i have just begun to learn lathe turning, last time i did it was 40 years ago, am decend on metal lathe, once i learn the nuances, the world will be my oyster.
Darn thing works for me, but again, i have no real time experience with one of the upper echelon lathes, i’m sure if i become proficient as i hope to, an upgrade is in the future. But for now, its doing just fine.
Rj in az

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#15 posted 12-31-2017 07:05 PM

I have the 12” lathe with the reversible head. The current price is $329. I bought mine about 5 years ago as a close out and paid about $200. I don’t do a lot of wood turning, so I didn’t want to spend a lot on it. When I have used it, it does what a lathe is supposed to do. Overall, I would give it a 3 out of 5. I would definitely recommend it to any beginner wanting to get their feet wet without shelling out a lot of money.

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