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pauldye

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12-28-2017 10:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question wooden screens installation

I have been building these wooden screens for an old house/former dry-cleaners in N.O. There are high ceilings upstairs and the place uses draft for cooling in summer.

I had one original wood screen that I took apart and used as a model. The screen was built with only 2 nails. Everything was done mortise and tenon, using glue and a few brads to hold down the screen molding. Very nice work for the 1920’s.

I installed the new screens downstairs, no problem. The 2nd floor is too high. I need to attach the screen to the top of the window, 2nd floor, from the outside. It is a height of approximately 20’ from the sidewalk. The sidewalk is slopped to the street. I don’t have scaffolds or ladders nearly high enough. Renting a bucket truck seems out of the question.

I was thinking the solution would be to build some long installation device/holder, that would allow me to attach the screen to the house from below. I have access to a small bamboo forest and can get poles of length.

Does anyone understand my problem and have some suggestions on how to build this?

On the 3rd picture below, you can see the mounting hook attached to the top of the screen.

Thanks!


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GR8HUNTER

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#1 posted 12-28-2017 10:20 PM

if you cant do it from 2nd floor maybe rent a man lift / cherry picker :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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John Smith

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#2 posted 12-28-2017 10:36 PM

good job on the fabrication !!

photos of the screens on the bottom floor and how they are hooked in will help.

since I have this morbid fear of heights, I would attach screen door handles on the inside
of the frames, slide the screen out at an angle then pull it tight and lock it into position
while another person screws it in tight with ell brackets on the sides. and never have to venture
out into areas where only eagles dare. does that seem like a viable solution ??
also take into account that someday you may have to remove them for repair or cleaning – with the same procedure.

Edit: tie a piece of rope onto one of the handles in case you drop it so it won’t crash to the ground.

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-- some people are like a Slinky - - - pretty much good for nothing. But still make you smile when you push them down a flight of stairs.

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#3 posted 12-30-2017 09:11 PM

Looks like your doing a good job Paul, if you add a picture of the 2nd floor situation it would assist in providing a solution.
BTW I will send you a PM regarding the 50cal comment

-- Regards Rob

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jerryminer

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#4 posted 12-31-2017 02:06 AM

I would think that reaching out through the 2nd floor window would give you better control than a long pole from the ground. Maybe use a safety harness to prevent a fall? And some sort of lanyard temporarily attached to the screen so it can’t fall either?

-- Jerry, making sawdust professionally since 1976

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pauldye

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#5 posted 12-31-2017 10:53 PM

Here are more pictures. The two windows on the top left need screens. The windows to the right have old screens on them.

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#6 posted 01-01-2018 01:08 AM

Seems like a short extension ladder—with adjustable feet—would handle that with ease. If you don’t own one, or want to buy one, and can’t borrow one, you could rent one.

-- Jerry, making sawdust professionally since 1976

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#7 posted 01-04-2018 11:29 PM

Do both the upper and lower lites move? Can you remove them easily. Are you planning to remove them and install storms each winter?

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pauldye

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#8 posted 01-05-2018 01:15 PM

The upper is a little stuck. This is New Orleans. We don’t have storm windows. We don’t have much winter either. Usually, it gets cold for a week or two, then it gets warm again.

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bilyo

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#9 posted 01-15-2018 11:08 PM

As a kid we lived in a two story house that had screens on the upper windows similar to these. I remember my father taking them down to clean occasionally and it was fairly simple and he did not have to climb all the way up. The upper frame member also had hooks, but they looked similar to this
With this arrangement, he used a fairly short ladder and holding the screen by the bottom, he could engage the hooks at the top and swing it down. The bottom then was fastened closed using one or two screen door hooks on the inside. I can’t tell from your pictures how the upper hooks on yours actually work. Maybe you can do the same. Of course, you will still need a ladder, but a 16 footer will probably do the job.

As mentioned above, putting the screens out through the upper windows and then engaging the hooks seems like a good solution, if possible.

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