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Forum topic by SweetTea posted 12-27-2017 01:23 PM 1265 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SweetTea

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12-27-2017 01:23 PM

So right now I own and operate a small production cabinet shop, and we make our own doors 90% of the time. I own 4 shapers currently, and have each one setup for its dedicated purpose. I use a Grizzly G1026 with a 1/4HP feeder to make the raised panels, another G1026 for the rails, a Grizzly G1035 for the stiles, and I keep a small el cheap Central Machinery shaper for odds and ends. I am wanting to buy a nice, heavy duty, industrial shaper that I can mount a 1HP feeder on to do panel raising. I plan to buy a used shaper and have a budget of $2,500 or below. I came across a local Delta RS-15 for $2,000 and it is in very good condition. I was just wondering if you guys recommend the 7.5HP Delta RS-15, or should I hold out for a MiniMax or SCMI? I don’t know if I could find a T110 in my price range, and even if I could, would that be substantially better than the Delta RS15? I think I can get the guy down to below $1,500 on this nice Delta, and that would leave me some money for a nice feeder. What do you guys think?


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#1 posted 12-27-2017 01:25 PM

Oh and please keep out the comments on ordering instead of building my own doors. We have our reasoning due to our local maket being the way it is.

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#2 posted 12-27-2017 03:47 PM

I have a delta/invicta rs-15…...its a very substantial machine

It was designed and engineered for serious duty

2000 is a pretty fair price for it,,,,,just make sure all the spindles are with it,,,,,,especially the 1 1/4

it is heavy (1240 lbs) and very smooth with plenty of work surface

I have a maggi one hp 4 wheeler on it.

There may be better machines out there…..I just haven’t seen it

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cabmaker

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#3 posted 12-27-2017 03:49 PM

BTW…. you stated it was 7.5 hp…...thats a three phase

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AZWoody

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#4 posted 12-27-2017 05:00 PM

If you want to hold out for a more industrial shaper, check the national auction sites like Machinery Max.
SCMI Shapers and other heavy duty shapers are on there frequently already with power feeders attached.
It’s probably one of the most common machines I see on there as most of the cabinet and furniture shops that go out of business have multiples like you do.

Sometimes you can get a great bargain.

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SweetTea

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#5 posted 12-27-2017 06:02 PM



If you want to hold out for a more industrial shaper, check the national auction sites like Machinery Max.
SCMI Shapers and other heavy duty shapers are on there frequently already with power feeders attached.
It s probably one of the most common machines I see on there as most of the cabinet and furniture shops that go out of business have multiples like you do.

Sometimes you can get a great bargain.

- AZWoody

Do you think the SCMI shapers are better than the Delta RS-15?

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SweetTea

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#6 posted 12-28-2017 02:07 PM

Got the guy with the Delta RS-15 down to $1,300. Should I take it for that price or hold out for an SCMI or other big industrial unit? What ever I end up buying, will most likely serve duty making raised panels.

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#7 posted 12-28-2017 02:11 PM

If I take this Delta RS-15 for $1,300 I would have enough money left over for a 1HP Grizzly G1135 track feeder. What do you guys think about that feeder, and whether or not I should take the deal for the RS-15, versus waiting on an SCMI, MiniMax, Martin, T110, T130 etc? Is the big Delta RS-15 comparable in any way to the T110’s?

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AZWoody

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#8 posted 12-29-2017 12:21 AM


If you want to hold out for a more industrial shaper, check the national auction sites like Machinery Max.
SCMI Shapers and other heavy duty shapers are on there frequently already with power feeders attached.
It s probably one of the most common machines I see on there as most of the cabinet and furniture shops that go out of business have multiples like you do.

Sometimes you can get a great bargain.

- AZWoody

Do you think the SCMI shapers are better than the Delta RS-15?

- SweetTea

I honestly don’t know. I do not use shapers right now for much other than the one I have. I use it for mostly router bits and because I use really hard woods and my router gets bogged down. Mine is a Shop Fox 3hp which I got for $300 on craigslist and it had the table extension on the front. It was too good of a deal to pass up and I love that it’s sturdy and quiet as opposed to how loud a router is.

I just know that in the auctions, they are what I see the most and I think 90% have the powerfeeder already with it.

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robscastle

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#9 posted 12-30-2017 11:46 AM

wq123 wants to order a door

-- Regards Rob

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SweetTea

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#10 posted 12-30-2017 02:17 PM

So now I am considering a super nice Leguna that is essentially 3 shaper tables in one, but not a three headed machine. It is their Panel Master 5 and has a sliding table that is Omni directional. It is capable of running all day long 3-5 days per week. It can hold three sets of cutters at a time (cope, stick and panel) and you only set them up one time. The spindle rotates on a turret system to where you can turn the spindle in one of 3 pre sent positions and not have to remove the cutters. I think this is the unit for me. I also looked into a nice Martin but at $47,000 it did not do everything the Leguna was capable of, and the Leguna is under $26,000 delivered to my door.

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cabmaker

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#11 posted 12-30-2017 02:36 PM

Were I you i would quit wasting peoples time and go to work

You know your not gonna go with a 26,000 dollar machine….let alone a 47,000 dollar machine

You stated you got the man down to 1300 on the delta and yet you did not fulfill your part as a prospective buyer

I don’t know where your located but if i am close enough i will come get the delta for 1300 !

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SweetTea

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#12 posted 12-30-2017 03:04 PM



Were I you i would quit wasting peoples time and go to work

You know your not gonna go with a 26,000 dollar machine….let alone a 47,000 dollar machine

You stated you got the man down to 1300 on the delta and yet you did not fulfill your part as a prospective buyer

I don t know where your located but if i am close enough i will come get the delta for 1300 !

- cabmaker

I am not waisting anyone’s time. I am not paying cash for this machine, I would be getting a loan to help pay for some upgrades. Initially I was intending to pay for the Delta out of my cash on hand, but I got to thinking about the fact that this is my livelihood and there aren’t really any custom door shops in our area, so I started to change my mind about going with a used machine. I called Leguna and spoke to a rep, then I called my bank to see about getting a loan. I would appreciate it if you would either offer constructive criticism on the topic of the thread, or give me your honest opinion also with regards to this thread.

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