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Forum topic by SWM posted 03-12-2011 04:48 AM 6461 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SWM

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03-12-2011 04:48 AM

Topic tags/keywords: dust collection pipe duct

Good Evenings My Esteemd LJ’s

Background:
I am at the beginning stages of planning a central Dust Collection piping system in my shop. I was able to pick up a used 5hp Oneida Cyclone and “starter kit” of the 26 ga snap-loc pipe and fittings. This kit has a 7” truck line, then reduces to 5” pipe, fittings, and blastgates. I’ve read alot of information over at Bill Pentz’s website about using 6” pipe all the way to the machine, which I plan to on the bigger machines. I figure that I can use the 5” stuff to some of the smaller machines. In rounding out the system, I’ve been looking at the snazzly quickfit pipe from Grizzly. It looks alot like the Nordfab pipe that Oneida sells.

Question:
Does anyone have experience with joining different types of DC pipe? Can it be done with reasonable accomodation? Or is each vendor going to have “proprietary” fittings?

Some of you are probably wondering why not just finish with the snap-loc pipe. Well, I’m wondering the same thing. So far, I’m not a big fan of all the crimping and taping. I’d much rather use the quick fit and get back to making saw dust!

Also, I’d appreciate any comments regarding your experience with the metal pipe fittings from Oneida, Grizzly, Penn State, etc.

Thanks looking and have a great weekend!

-- Working on a retirement hobby, only 30 more years to practice!


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cabmaker

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#1 posted 03-12-2011 05:20 AM

Hi SWM, Congrads on the oneida your gonna love it. I believe your going to need an 8 inch to start with arent you ? If you already know about nordfab, then you already know about the best. The grizzly lazer weld pipe is pretty much the same thing but I am unsure of their fittings. The system is pricey but vey quick to installl and easy to change around if needed. The purchase pain will leave you shortly when you fire the system up. I personally do not have that now. I once did but after downsizing shops I went with spiral pipe. Knowing what I know now I could have saved several thousend years ago and gone with the spiral back in the days of the big shop. My system begins at the cyclone with 8, reduces to 7 at approx 4ft. Then into a y where I then split into two 6 inch for a ways (once) past the planer and table saw I went to 5 inch to several other machines. So what I ended up with is either 6 inch or five inch all the way to blast gates and then completed the remaining 2-4 ft. in spiral or appropriate sized flex.

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#2 posted 03-12-2011 04:26 PM

Hi Cabmaker,
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I planned to run a few feet of 8” duct before downsizing to 7” then 6”.

Do I understand you to say that you are completely happy with the spiral duct/fittings and it’s about 30% less? That’s about the price differential that I’m seeing. Doesn’t most of the spiral duct slip fit together? And a small adapter is needed to slip fit the duct to fittings.

The grizzly pipe looks pretty good, for whatever the online pictures are worth. I did notice some really ugly seams on their matching wye’s. They have a 6” starter/addition kit that saves you about 28% if you need all the included pieces. I was hoping to buy a couple of these kits, plus the larger main branches. It would be great if I could tie in the snap-loc piping/fixtures that I already have.

And yes, I am just giddy about getting the Oneida up and running in the shop! In my small shop; I’m hoping that it brings real meaning to the old phrase “suck the chrome off a trailer hitch”!

-- Working on a retirement hobby, only 30 more years to practice!

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#3 posted 06-05-2011 01:56 AM

I just discovered this post, while searching for “quick-fit”. Did you end up going with the Grizzly ducting or the Nordfab? I just bought a Clearvue cyclone and am going to need now to buy the ducting. I love the convenience of the Nordfab stuff, but the sticker shock is keeping me from buying it so far…

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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SWM

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#4 posted 06-10-2011 05:55 PM

Manitario,
Ultimately I ended up with the snap-lock pipe. The spiral and nordfab pipe where just more than I wanted to spend plus I already had about $500 worth of snap-lock pipe and fittings. It seemed to be the smarter, cheaper, although more time consuming decision. The snap-lock pipe isn’t that big of a hassle to install it just takes a little time to make sure that everything is sealed up tight. Best of luck
SWM

-- Working on a retirement hobby, only 30 more years to practice!

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Manitario

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#5 posted 06-11-2011 05:58 AM

Thanks for the update. Yeah, the Norfab is pretty nice but I agree, just too expensive to justify. I’m leaning towards putting in some spiral pipe, although we’ll see how much money is left over once I finish my garage renos.

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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#6 posted 06-11-2011 02:47 PM

I’m in the process of putting a new system in as well. I bought the CV max from clear vue and started muy ducting with Nordfab pipe. I used 8” to my first branch then down sized to 7” after that.
The machines are still hooked up to my old system. The new run is in the back round.

Rockler has some good prices on quick fit pipe. They handle up to 6”. Its all the same stuff.

I just bought a bin full alarm system with strobe light I’ll be installing one of these weekends.

-- New Auburn,WI

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Manitario

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#7 posted 06-11-2011 03:52 PM

NICE! The CV max must be a beast once it is fired up. I’ll check out Rockler for the quick fit pipe. Where did you get your bin alarm from?

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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#8 posted 06-12-2011 02:05 AM

McRabbet from the clear vue forums.I’ll take some pics when I get around to hooking it up.

-- New Auburn,WI

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#9 posted 06-12-2011 02:13 PM

refrigerator??? lol… I’m guessing your talking about the sander. Its a 37” timesaver.

-- New Auburn,WI

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