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AlmostRetired

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12-17-2017 09:18 AM

As with a few other posts lately, I am interested in growing my collection of high quality tools and the reconditioned emails I am getting daily are peaking my interest.

currently have an array of Ridgid, Bosch, and Ryobi RO Sanders. Much the same I have an Ryobi jigsaw.

Question is this….are the sanders and jigsaws made by Festool really that much better?

Thanks,
Roger


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 12-17-2017 12:37 PM

Not in my opinion, but there are several thousand others who will disagree.

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#2 posted 12-17-2017 01:26 PM

From what I have read (not from personal experience) in different forums from people that own them, the sanders are the best of the best. Most everything else is a high quality tool that excels in dust collection.

The tools don’t make the craftsman. Some of the most beautiful pieces that I’ve ever seen are before power tools even existed. Even so, if I had the money to blow, I’d go for some of the Festool tools. But you have to weigh for yourself if X% better is worth 300% more $$$.

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waho6o9

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#3 posted 12-17-2017 01:37 PM

Sanders yes, I’m not to crazy about the jigsaws and Kapex though.

Here’s a FOG (Festool Owners Group) discussion on jigsaws:
http://festoolownersgroup.com/other-tools-accessories/looking-to-purchase-a-jigsaw/?topicseen

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Lazyman

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#4 posted 12-17-2017 01:56 PM

One thing that I read about their sanders is that the tool not only pulls the dust out well but also blows cool air in to keep the paper from overheating which helps prevent clogging and extends the life of the paper. Cool idea if it really works.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#5 posted 12-17-2017 02:02 PM

I think the Festool Carvex (jigsaw) is one of their best products. It cuts so smoothly and allows the user to cut with much better precision and accuracy than other jig saws. I once built a big trestle table with all 2” thick walnut for the top and the legs, and borrowed a friends Festool jigsaw to cut out the curves in the design of the trestle. It was an eye opening experience for me, because of the accuracy and smoothnsss that I would have never known could exist in a jig saw. I have both a Ryobi, Dewalt and Makita jig saws in my shop, and none of them are any better than the others, not even close, but, the Carvex is a totally different beast!

I should note that the big Bosch jigsaw that retails for like $300+ dollars consistently gets high praise and from all that I have heard, is just as good as the Carvex. They say the Bosch has better dust management. I have never gotten the opportunity to use the Bosch, but it might be worth looking into due to it being cheaper than the Festool Carvex.

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madts

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#6 posted 12-17-2017 02:08 PM

I bought the Pro 5 LTD. and the CT 26 dust extractor. With this setup I can sand indoors all day long and really have no dust inside the house. The sander is the best I have ever used, the sand paper lasts longer than most others that I have used. Of course the price is up there.

—Madts.

-- Thor and Odin are still the greatest of Gods.

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#7 posted 12-17-2017 02:52 PM


As with a few other posts lately, I am interested in growing my collection of high quality tools and the reconditioned emails I am getting daily are peaking my interest. currently have an array of Ridgid, Bosch, and Ryobi RO Sanders. Much the same I have an Ryobi jigsaw.

Question is this….are the sanders and jigsaws made by Festool really that much better?

Thanks,

Roger

- AlmostRetired

Yes

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JackDuren

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#8 posted 12-17-2017 03:05 PM


I think the Festool Carvex (jigsaw) is one of their best products. It cuts so smoothly and allows the user to cut with much better precision and accuracy than other jig saws. I once built a big trestle table with all 2” thick walnut for the top and the legs, and borrowed a friends Festool jigsaw to cut out the curves in the design of the trestle. It was an eye opening experience for me, because of the accuracy and smoothnsss that I would have never known could exist in a jig saw. I have both a Ryobi, Dewalt and Makita jig saws in my shop, and none of them are any better than the others, not even close, but, the Carvex is a totally different beast!

I should note that the big Bosch jigsaw that retails for like $300+ dollars consistently gets high praise and from all that I have heard, is just as good as the Carvex. They say the Bosch has better dust management. I have never gotten the opportunity to use the Bosch, but it might be worth looking into due to it being cheaper than the Festool Carvex.

- SweetTea

Bosch is very good. I bought a Metabo and it’s good as well. I use an older Porter Cable with guides for very small cuts but haven’t used it in 10 years. I got a another Bosch for 45 degree cuts and is always set..

I’d go Bosch over the name,pretty and price….

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John_H

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#9 posted 12-17-2017 08:37 PM

Did you mean high quality or high price :)

I will never forget the story posted on the Festool Owner’s Group where a guy had a 1 year old Carvex and was cutting a hole for a sink in a countertop. He ended up hitting a metal screw – and it completely ruined the Carvex. It was still under warranty and he sent it in for repairs, but since he was using a ‘non Festool’ blade’ they denied the warranty claim. The repair estimate was more than it cost to buy a new one

Stick with Bosch for the jig saw. When it comes to sander, it would depend on what your actually looking for. Again, Bosch makes some very nice sanders (especially for the money) and they also make some great vacuums. (Do you really need a HEPA filter)

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Loren

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#10 posted 12-17-2017 09:19 PM

I’ve seen complaints that the newer Festool
jig saws are not terrific for the price. I have
an older barrel grip Festool jig saw and I
like it a lot. I’ve used Bosch before and I
like the Festool feel better but the difference
is not great. Mine’s a PS2e.

The Festool sanders have a reputation for being
very well balanced, which reduces operator
fatigue.

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JackDuren

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#11 posted 12-17-2017 09:31 PM



I ve seen complaints that the newer Festool
jig saws are not terrific for the price. I have
an older barrel grip Festool jig saw and I
like it a lot. I ve used Bosch before and I
like the Festool feel better but the difference
is not great. Mine s a PS2e.

The Festool sanders have a reputation for being
very well balanced, which reduces operator
fatigue.

- Loren


The Bosch and Metabo work flawless, But you still need to use correctly. It’s not a sawzall..

As far as sander… Anyone can get fatigued if their not use to using a sander on a regular bases. If one is using it enough then there are good options if the budget allows other than Festool…

For me I would look into a great compressor first and go pneumatic….

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AlmostRetired

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#12 posted 12-20-2017 05:08 PM

Thanks for all the replies folks. Keep them coming if you have experience to share.

Roger

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OnhillWW

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#13 posted 12-20-2017 06:43 PM

I have a Festool Rotex 90 and Bosch 6” ROS. Love both of them. R90 is light, quiet, & collects dust very well. With both round and triangular heads and two modes of oscillation make the R90 (and all Rotex sanders) a very versatile tool. Pricey yes, but – buy once cry once. Now, my Bosch has been used and abused and still runs like a charm, a real work horse, doesn’t owe me a penny. I do a lot of sanding where I’m holding the workpiece in the air with one hand and the sander in the other, the Bosch is heavy and it does not take long for my wrist, tennis elbow to take offence. That is why I originally went and researched a smaller complementary sander and settled on the Festool. If I were to lose both of them tomorrow I would replace them both w/o any hesitation as, for me they are a great combination which cover just about all my needs.

-- Cheap is expensive! - my Dad

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maxyedor

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#14 posted 12-20-2017 06:58 PM

I was debating the Rotex 150and the Bosch 1250DEVS. I ended up with the Bosch and couldn’t be happier. The Festool was just a hair lighter and more ergonomic, but the weight wasn’t an issue and the ergonomics of the Bosch were good enough. The Bosch being 1/2 the price sealed the deal. The dust collection is every bit as good as Festool IMHO and is going to depend more on the vacuum than the sander.

If I were in your shoes I’d be looking at Bosch sanders, and Bosch or Metabo jig saws, take the savings and put it toward a Festool CT HEPA Vac. The vacuums and the Domino are the two tools that I really think Festool does significantly better than anybody else and the ones that are truly worth the money.

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