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03-08-2011 09:26 AM

I’m building an observation beehive and I never thought about the glue? I was wondering how long tight bond off gases?any ideas would be welcome.

-- life an woodworking is one big experiment


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#1 posted 03-08-2011 11:37 AM

It doesn’t dries hard, so presumably it out gasses for a long, long time.
I doubt it would be toxic to bees but if you’re concerned about that
I’d recommend learning about glues that dries hard. White glue dries
harder, but not brittle-hard like hide glue or plastic resin glue.

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#2 posted 03-08-2011 10:27 PM

FastCap 2P-10 glue. totally waterproof, REALLY strong and no odor after about 15 minutes.

-- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot"

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#3 posted 03-08-2011 10:54 PM

Titebond glue is PVA (polyvinyl acetate) based. Polyvinyl acetate is non toxic. This glue does not off gas anything besides water vapor. The manufacturer might mix in some additives that could off gas something else, but this is probably proprietary information.

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#4 posted 03-08-2011 11:37 PM

I have built a 5 deep frame observation hive(5 high,1wide). I used TBII. I had bees in it within a week. Are you worried about them absconding or dying? I think that a strong smelling petroleum based finish would be worse than the off gas of glue. For a finish I used either linseed oil or mineral oil, then waxed with a beeswax finish. I’m not sure what plans you are using, but I modified the plans from beesource.com and have been very happy with it. I have heard of people with OB hives only 1 frame wide(so you can see all comb) having trouble wintering the bees. I am happy to say I think mine will make it through its first winter. I noticed last week the queen has laid a small patch of brood.
If you have any other OB hive questions just shoot me a pm
Scott

-- Scott Smith, Southern Illinois

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#5 posted 03-09-2011 05:35 AM

thank you for all the insight I trust all you LJ”s knowledge. The glue dry for over a week before she gets the OB beehive.she’s going to be using it just for a class. So they will be in there for about six hours. But I made deep enough that she can get 4 frames in their… I had planned on using mineral oil and beeswax as a finish. This site is so great, you could ask the weirdest questions in woodworking and get the best answers. You guys rule.
thanks again!
Dan

-- life an woodworking is one big experiment

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#6 posted 03-09-2011 05:41 AM

Interesting hobby. Love to see some pics.

-- Bodie, Westerville, Ohio "Beer is proof God loves us, and wants us to be happy", Ben Franklin.

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#7 posted 03-09-2011 06:05 AM

a lady commission me because she has a honey bee farm and she’s going to be teaching classes.

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#8 posted 03-09-2011 06:52 AM

Hello All, I was searching online for information regarding wood glue off gasing due to the finding of medical complications of my own directly related to repeated exposure to wood glues. Using wood glue in the construction of your bee’s new home may be something that you want to reconsider. In my case medical issues only developed after years of continued exposure in enclosed workshops…but the important thing is that yes medical issues did develop, so you may want to take this into account if you truly do care for your bees.

Regards

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#9 posted 03-09-2011 07:22 AM

on everything I’ve looked up on beehives. They all use wood glue.

-- life an woodworking is one big experiment

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