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834 days ago |
Topic tags/keywords: question I am making new kitchen cabinet doors of western maple. I am undecided how to finish them. We both prefer a dark cherry colour. I have never used a spray gun before. Am I foolish to try to spray them? I have been reading about HVLP sprayers which seem easier to use than regular sprayers. |
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#1 posted 834 days ago |
You’d be foolish to try to spray them if they’re the first thing you’ve ever sprayed before… and I say this from having made that mistake myself. Spray guns are a great time saver once you get the pressure right, sprayer set correctly, and have a feel for it. Technique is very important, I’d suggest checking youtube for some how to videos. I would practice on scrap or even just cardboard boxes before going for the cabinets. One thing I learned the hard way is that you should never let the tank get too low, or the sprayer will start to sputter and you’ll get uneven coating. Overall I was able to get the feel for it within a few hours of experimenting, once I got the settings right it was an incredible time saver, way faster and more consistent than using a brush or roller. -- Perilous to all of us are the devices of an art deeper than we ourselves possess. --Gandalf the Grey http://davidwahl.org/category/woodworking/ |
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#2 posted 833 days ago |
Spraying finish is an art as well as a science. There are many factors such as temperature, humidity, wood surface temperature, room air cleanliness, compressor/turbine air cleanliness, finish type (water or solvent borne), etc, etc. Like DMWAHL indicated it takes practice to get all the planets to come into alignment and get good results. I’ve been at it for over 10 years. I use an HVLP with a two stage turbine that cleans and dries the air before delivering to the gun. It took me about a year to get to the point where I could say I had achieved a professional finish on a project. I would not attempt to finish your cabinet doors if you have never sprayed finish before. It takes a lot of time, patience, wood scraps and actual finish to get good at it. You would need a good spray booth as well as a good drying rack. When you start spraying you don’t want to stop. I built a drying rack that will hold 75 doors/drawers and other flat panels. This enables me to keep cycling parts through the spray booth while other parts are drying. For kitchen work I generally use conversion varnish as it is very durable. But I only spray on horizontal parts to avoid any runs and get the desired finish thickness. I would not attempt to use the hangers (you can buy at popular woodworking stores) that allow you to hang your doors while you spray. When you use this method you have to spray very thin coats to avoid runs. It is also difficult to get even coating as your panel spins around from the force of the spray. Don’t ask. :-) Because of this you won’t achieve the finish thickness specified by the manufacturer to achieve the level of protection they indicate. -- Don, Diamond Lake Custom Woodworks - http://www.dlwoodworks.com - "If you make something idiot proof, all they do is make a better idiot" |
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#3 posted 833 days ago |
HVLP ? Yes. A good semi-pro unit that has a real easy learning curve and is nice on the wallet ? Right here: http://www.highlandwoodworking.com/earlexspraystation5000hvlpsystem.aspx We have used it on cabinetry including doors / drawers, mantels, entertainment centers, etc. We use oil-based enamels, usually (no lacquers)... though I bet it would love spraying it. Good for stains and urethanes, too. Eastwood (the pro automotive supplier) also sells and recommends it for automotive spraying. -- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia |
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#4 posted 833 days ago |
Percy, -- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
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#5 posted 833 days ago |
I agree with pintodeluxe. I had the porta cable gravity feed gun and it did the job. I seemed to have better luck with it cranked up to 60 psi. I still use it when spaying on stain. Start off practicing spraying the backs of the cabinets. After you spray your first top coat, let it dry and lightly sand by hand with 400 or so grit sandpaper, sanding off the raised wood fibers until it feels smooth and its pretty quick…not much time spent sanding. With that sprayer I was doing a min of 3 coats. -- New Auburn,WI |
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#6 posted 833 days ago |
Hi Percy – If you have never sprayed before it doesn’t make sense to start now by using a compressed air system. HVLP starts with less problems right away because it uses clean air and because it has about 40% less overspray. I would recommend the HV5000 or the new HV5500 with about twice the power. Very simple systems to use, easy to clean up. Short learning curve. -- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"! |
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#7 posted 832 days ago |
What type of finish are you planning to spray? -- shdesign3.com |
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#8 posted 832 days ago |
Thanks guys for all your info. We would like to acheive a dark cherry colour preferably with stain. |
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#9 posted 832 days ago |
I always spray my stain and remove the excess with a cloth. -- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"! |
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#10 posted 832 days ago |
In regards to Earlex’s first reply- Also – do you work for Earlex? If so I must consider your responce a little biased. LOL. -- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush |
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#11 posted 832 days ago |
Don’t let my mysterious name confuse you. I work for Earlex. I am tech support. I am here to promote spray finishing in general, HVLP in particular, because I am a believer. I am a little biased. -- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"! |
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