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Forum topic by TJU posted 03-05-2011 03:15 PM 1098 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TJU

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03-05-2011 03:15 PM

I’m starting on a bed project and the 4 posts are 2.75” on each face. If I use flat sawn cherry glued up with about a 1/4” flat sawn cherry veneer on each side will I get checking on the 2 thinner faces. The goal is to hide the side grain glue lines.

Tim

-- Although the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.


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tenontim

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#1 posted 03-05-2011 03:23 PM

If you can, cut your post with the grain running at a diagonal, looking from the end. That way it will look almost the same all the way around. Older Stickley pieces used the veneer method you’re talking about, and all of them I ever saw were cracked. If I need post that large, I usually make each one out of four pieces of wood,
mitered together to form the post. My $0.02.

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TJU

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#2 posted 03-05-2011 03:35 PM

I have one of these 45 miter locking bits but I have had trouble getting them to come together just rights. Would you recomend something like this? If so any tips?
http://www.eagleamerica.com/product/v192-1602/ea_-_glue_joints

Tim

-- Although the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.

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tenontim

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#3 posted 03-05-2011 04:20 PM

Tim, if you have a router table, these work well. They require fairly precise setup, and seem to work better if you make the cuts in several cuts, instead of all at once. I normally just cut mine at 45 degrees on the table saw.
Check http://tmuli.com/workshopblog/ Some folks like to use splines to hold everything in place, but I haven’t had any problem keeping things aligned. I use the stretch type flat twine to hold everything together.

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Lee Barker

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#4 posted 03-05-2011 04:24 PM

Lock miter bits, in my opinion, should come with instructions explaining how to get the planets to align just right so your corners do. : ) They require perfect setup which, when accomplished, makes assembly and glueup and clamping a summer festival.

If, however, you don’t have a shaper with a router chuck, and perfectly flat and straight material, they can be challenging.

I appreciate the aesthetic you’re wanting to achieve, but I’d suggest you glue up a small sample to see if the gluelines are as problematic as you’re suggesting they might be. Careful attention to color, mainly, and grain and then equally careful planning so they land consistently on the corners the way you want them to would, IMHO, give you a good, strong and pleasing feel to the piece.

Legs on a bed get lost visually. It’s the quilt and the head/footboards that get all the press.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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TheDane

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#5 posted 03-05-2011 04:35 PM

I have an MLCS lock miter bit … does a good job. I ordered their setup block which makes setting bit height and fence positioning much easier. The setup block has profiles for 3/4” and 5/8” stock.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#6 posted 03-05-2011 05:35 PM

I normally just cut 4/4 stock on a 45 degree and glue up for posts 3” and larger square. I usually insert Poplar squares inside the “tube that I have formed, at the attachment points for bed posts. This way I have 4 faces that have like grain orientation and I do not have to use thick stock. Never found the need for locking miters. The glue joint is strong as needed IMO. Looks great too, especially when I build qtr sawn White Oak posts. Make them any size required for the look I am after.

-- McKinney Hardwood Lumber --Specializing in exotic and figured hardwood lumber http://www.mckinneyhardwoods.com -McKinney, TX

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richgreer

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#7 posted 03-05-2011 11:25 PM

Let me just comment that I really like your avatar. GO BLUE!!

I live in Iowa, but I am a Michigan native and a long time Michigan fan.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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TJU

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#8 posted 03-06-2011 02:00 AM

I hope they just made March madness with the win over state.

I have made headboards before with this locking miter but I wan’t happy with the results. It’s one of those things that no one notices unless you point it out to them.

-- Although the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.

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McKinneyMike

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#9 posted 03-06-2011 03:26 AM

TJU,

I build my post similarly, except I cut all my sides on a 45 degree so that I hide all joint lines and allow me to have all faces look the same. This especially nice with qtr sawn White Oak. Simple glue up to as all sides fold up and form a perfect box. I generally just use packing tape to hold it all together for drying and then I insert a suitable sized length of Poplar to fill the void and add strength for bed post and columns that are structural.

-- McKinney Hardwood Lumber --Specializing in exotic and figured hardwood lumber http://www.mckinneyhardwoods.com -McKinney, TX

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