LumberJocks

Shelix Head Advice

  • Advertise with us

« back to Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories forum

Forum topic by 01ntrain posted 12-10-2017 05:38 PM 845 views 0 times favorited 26 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View 01ntrain's profile

01ntrain

255 posts in 1127 days


12-10-2017 05:38 PM

I can’t decide if I want to pull the trigger on a Shelix head for my Craftsman 6” jointer…..

Here are my reasons for doing it:

I blew thru a nail, and changing the blades were a nightmare and a major time-suck.

Ease of repair of above issues, superior cut, and quieter.

Here are my reasons for passing:

Is it worth it to put one on a Craftsman 6” jointer?

I know I won’t get my $$ back if I decide to sell it.

My garage shop is kind of on the smaller side and I really don’t see me upgrading to an 8” jointer in the near future. The 6” is not a bad machine and it fits into my usage just fine. I use a lot of locally sawn wood, so it’s usually rough and has the potential for more metal intrusion than the commercial, big-box stuff.

Wondering if anyone else on this site has done the same, and what were your experiences?


26 replies so far

View Kelly's profile

Kelly

2044 posts in 3001 days


#1 posted 12-10-2017 06:12 PM

Based on your reasoning, that’s a tough call. While it seems a shame to put a Rolls engine in a VW, if you [honestly] knew you were not going to upgrade. . . . Hey, I’d trick out an ugly goose of a car/truck, if I was going to keep it twenty years. Then there is the fact you could get at least the head price out of it five years from now, I would think.

I have an eight inch long bed and love it. I ran a couple ten foot 2x’s and was able to join them for a repair on a friend’s pick nick bench and couldn’t picture trying it on a short bed. I’d want it if I had a six, but would have been happy with a long bed six, if that’s all my shop would allow me.

View 01ntrain's profile

01ntrain

255 posts in 1127 days


#2 posted 12-10-2017 06:31 PM

Trust me, I’ve been giving a hard eye to that Steelex 8” jointer with the Shelix heads that’s running around on Ebay….but, I need to upgrade a few other things too. Not sure about justifying the cost.

View Aj2's profile

Aj2

1513 posts in 1855 days


#3 posted 12-10-2017 06:55 PM

No it’s not worth it.Your better off in the long run saving for a planer with a HHEAD. Is your jointer one of those with a fixed outfeed table? Setting jointer knives is not that hard just takes some practice with a reliable technique and machine.

-- Aj

View Tony_S's profile

Tony_S

887 posts in 3140 days


#4 posted 12-10-2017 09:42 PM

If you’re happy with the 6” and it serves you well, You should definitely get the Shelix….You’ll never look back.

-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle

View alittleoff's profile

alittleoff

540 posts in 1334 days


#5 posted 12-10-2017 10:48 PM

If your looking at eBay and the deal that is showing up there be aware that after you order and they take your money about three days later you get a message that it’s been backordered. When I placed my order they said it was in stock. Now I’m waiting again after cancelling my order with grizzly. I really don’t think I’ll ever get an 8 in. Jointer. The seller is Factory Authorized Sales. Their legit, just run false ads.
Gerald

View 01ntrain's profile

01ntrain

255 posts in 1127 days


#6 posted 12-10-2017 11:38 PM



If your looking at eBay and the deal that is showing up there be aware that after you order and they take your money about three days later you get a message that it s been backordered. When I placed my order they said it was in stock. Now I m waiting again after cancelling my order with grizzly. I really don t think I ll ever get an 8 in. Jointer. The seller is Factory Authorized Sales. Their legit, just run false ads.
Gerald

- alittleoff

I’m an Ebay veteran and I’m a bit skeptical of the ad, myself. It seems to good to be true. But, it is a hell of a deal and time really isn’t of the essence in my case. I could wait a month or two and be OK. Do let me know of the status of yours, if you don’t mind.

View JBrow's profile

JBrow

1365 posts in 977 days


#7 posted 12-11-2017 12:21 AM

01ntrain,

If your Craftsman 6” jointer has an outfeed table that is fixed and part of body of the jointer, proper alignment of the new helical cutter head (HH) may present an unexpected problem. If the HH cutters do not perfectly align with the outfeed table and cannot be adjusted to the outfeed table, then the HH outfitted Craftsman jointer will be difficult to use.

If this alignment concern is not an issue, then I agree with Tony_S. The benefits of the HH will make the jointer a pleasure to use. But you may also look into an upgrade that is already equipped with a HH. A new 6” jointer, while undoubtedly more money than the $375 Craftsman-compatible Byrd HH, may be the better way to go; either now or down the road. On the other hand, this addition research can reassure you that upgrading the Craftsman is the way to go, especially if you intend to keep the Craftsman.

View richardchaos's profile

richardchaos

583 posts in 437 days


#8 posted 12-11-2017 12:23 AM

Don’t pay her up front!

I am sorry I couldn’t help myself!

Call it a weakness

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

View avsmusic1's profile

avsmusic1

273 posts in 742 days


#9 posted 12-11-2017 12:30 AM

Im w/ AJ2
Im personally a big fan of shelix in a planer. If you have a lunchbox planer I’d consider an upgrade there because you can always take a finial light pass on faces. Id just stick to straight blades in the jointer (and be careful of nails) until the planer was upgraded
Just my opinion

View Tony_S's profile

Tony_S

887 posts in 3140 days


#10 posted 12-11-2017 11:06 AM



01ntrain,

If your Craftsman 6” jointer has an outfeed table that is fixed and part of body of the jointer, proper alignment of the new helical cutter head (HH) may present an unexpected problem. If the HH cutters do not perfectly align with the outfeed table and cannot be adjusted to the outfeed table, then the HH outfitted Craftsman jointer will be difficult to use.
- JBrow

Good point. I don’t think I’ve ever even heard of a jointer with a fixed outfeed table….but that would definitely bugger things up with the Shelix.
Otherwise, If it is adjustable, you can’t go wrong 01ntrain.

-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle

View Gene Howe's profile

Gene Howe

10636 posts in 3486 days


#11 posted 12-11-2017 01:35 PM

I have a 40 y.o. Craftsman 6” jointer and the outfeed table is definitely fixed. That’s precisely why I don’t have an HH in it.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

View Bob5103's profile

Bob5103

91 posts in 891 days


#12 posted 12-11-2017 01:39 PM

I have a Byrd Shelix in my 8” jointer and really like it. You don’t say what model Craftsman you have so you might want to check to see if a cutter is available. Go here to find out: https://shelixheads.com/SHELIX_Heads_for_Jointers_by_CRAFTSMAN_(Sears)
If it is available I highly recommend the swap.

View jerkylips's profile

jerkylips

419 posts in 2627 days


#13 posted 12-11-2017 02:56 PM

View 01ntrain's profile

01ntrain

255 posts in 1127 days


#14 posted 12-11-2017 04:39 PM

To clarify, the jointer is a newer one with fully adjustable front table. I like the jointer because it has the raised lockable switch, it’s mobile and has storage for the push blocks. I bought it barely used, so it isn’t like I got a lot of money invested in it($200 I think). Which makes the upgrade that much more tantalizing.

View pintodeluxe's profile

pintodeluxe

5726 posts in 2870 days


#15 posted 12-11-2017 05:30 PM

I would go for the upgrade. If you’re not going to upsize the jointer in the next 2-3 years, then it makes total sense to spring for the Shelix. I have one on my Dewalt 735 planer, and many would argue why put a Shelix on a portable planer? Well, because it works.

The blades last 10-20x longer, and are relatively easy to change.

The knife changing operation on a jointer is reason enough to change to a different system. I think every woodworker should have to change jointer knives once, just so they realize how detailed the operation is.

Go for it!

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

showing 1 through 15 of 26 replies

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com