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birdman1charlie

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12-06-2017 09:04 PM

Think I posted incorrectly the first time—Sorry if this ends up double posting.-

Hello
I want to upgrade from a Rockwell job site saw to a hybrid table saws. I am going to ask the same question that has been asked multiple times before. BUT my situation is that I live in an extremely rural part of the country. I can’t go to the local Rockler or Woodcraft to touch a saw. I am stuck using mail order. Skill level is 1 or 2 steps above “I can build you a nice table out of 2×4’s”. I want to keep the cost to ~$1500 but preferably closer to $1000. I have looked at a lot of the reviews and forums. Grizzly has saws for $1000 or less as do other companies. No matter the brand though, it seems most reviews say great saw but you need to spend another $300 for a good fence. No savings there then. The Laguna Fusion looks good but is at my upper limit.

Bottom line- I need a saw that is accurate out of the box and better than a job site saw. A saw that will work for an old guy hobbyist. I do 99.9% of my work in lumber yard soft pine. And I am way too old to play the “buy now and upgrade later game.” (Got too many grand kids to spend money on instead of saws. lol)

Thanks for any ideas you can give me

-- They told me age was just a state of mind. Hogwash! My body disagrees.


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knotscott

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#1 posted 12-06-2017 09:21 PM

I’m not sure why you’d need to replace the fence on one the current Grizzly hybrid, or that the fence on the Fusion is notably better. The Fusion fence has a two-piece aluminum front rail, which is less desirable IMO compared to a single steel rail, or even a one piece aluminum rail.


Another option is the Jet Proshop. The guts are very similar to those on the Fusion, but the fence rail is a single steel piece.

If you have 220v, and don’t want to upgrade again, the step up to something like the Grizzly G1023RL or G0690 3hp industrial cabinet saws is pretty significant.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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#2 posted 12-06-2017 09:32 PM

Did somebody mention the Griz 1023? :-) Mine was delivered Christmas 2012. I have been a happy camper. It will outlast me, and maybe the next owner. Quiet, and powerful.

I ordered mine with the router wing (1023RLW), but I don’t use it much. Always seems to be something in the way – either the router or the saw blade.

...and I will be 69 in a couple of months! Retired in 2008 and making the best of the available space in our one car garage (that has never had a car in it)

Good luck in your search.
Mike

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#3 posted 12-06-2017 09:34 PM

I guess you have ruled out used, which would give you much more bang for your buck. You don’t specify where you are, but I’ve not found being in a rural area to be much of a problem finding equipment – in fact, it can sometimes be to your benefit. I may be in the middle of the woods, unable to get cell service or cable TV, but I do have some nice towns/cities within driving distance that I’ve found some pretty darn good deals in.

Cheers,
Brad

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#4 posted 12-06-2017 09:35 PM

Recently purchased the Grizzly G0833P. I am very happy with it. Accurate out of the box is a bit subjective though. Meaning it needs to be set up properly which I believe all table saws do. But out of the box with a proper set up this saw is more than accurate for my home, hobby needs.

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#5 posted 12-06-2017 09:41 PM

Speaking of being in a rural area…I have purchased three tools from Grizzly. I added the Tailgate Lift Service to each one. All were over 200# (drum sander, table saw and band saw). The driver unloaded the boxes each time and put them inside the garage so I could shut the door. I did tip him each time. Turns out his sister lives about 3 blocks from us! SAIA Trucking.

-- Handcrafted by Mike Henderson - Channelview, Texas

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#6 posted 12-07-2017 12:38 AM

Thanks everyone for the replies. I am in the Sand hills of Nebraska ( God’s Country as we call it. Smiley face). I kid you not in that you can drive an hour and a half and not see another car. Anyway back on track- I have seen a lot on good reviews on The Grizzly tools. The people complaining about the fence are, I am sure, way above my skill level.
I have not had any luck on Craig’s list. I think I will probably go with Grizzly. Ether the 1023 or the G0833 depending on much the wife spent on the grand kids for Christmas.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Thank you again.

-- They told me age was just a state of mind. Hogwash! My body disagrees.

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#7 posted 12-07-2017 01:25 PM


... I think I will probably go with Grizzly. Ether the 1023 or the G0833 depending on much the wife spent on the grand kids for Christmas.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Thank you again.

- birdman1charlie

I know it’s not my money, but the step from the G0833 to the G1023RL is pretty significant, making the G1023 a better value IMO. It’s simply a more robust saw with heavier duty underpinnings, larger smoother hand wheels, 50% more power, more mass, heavier duty fence, and is a very well proven tool. The TS is typically the most important tool in a wood shop. I’ve never regretted buying a better TS than I needed, but I have regretted not buying it sooner in the evolution of my hobby. Food for thought.

G1023RL underpinnings:

G0771 underpinnings: (I’m assuming they’re similar to the G0833’s)

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#8 posted 12-07-2017 06:28 PM

I have never heard any credible evidence that Grizzly fences are not good and my personal experience tells me they work fine. Beware of posters who criticize Grizzly for some deficiency when they have never owned one.

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#9 posted 12-07-2017 07:43 PM


I guess you have ruled out used, which would give you much more bang for your buck. You don t specify where you are, but I ve not found being in a rural area to be much of a problem finding equipment – in fact, it can sometimes be to your benefit. I may be in the middle of the woods, unable to get cell service or cable TV, but I do have some nice towns/cities within driving distance that I ve found some pretty darn good deals in.

Cheers,
Brad
- MrUnix


I would probably have gone the used route also.
I picked up a Delta 36-T30 T3 fence (for $200) that you can install on a contractor saw and be well under $1000.

-- measure twice, cut once.

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#10 posted 12-08-2017 10:16 PM

I agree with posters who like the 1023. I bought the Shop Fox version of that saw 12 years ago. It was way out of my league then, I didn’t have the skills to take advantage of the saw. I am so glad I did. It is the middle of my shop, my most dependable tool and it has been doing everything I asked for all that time. I have never, or a second, regretted spending the additional $200.00 it took to buy this saw. I strongly suggest you try to bump up. You will never regret it.

My two cents.

-- When you earnestly believe you can compensate for a lack of skill by doubling your efforts, there is no end to what you CAN'T do

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#11 posted 12-09-2017 04:41 AM

Save your pennies if you still have a working saw.

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