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03-02-2011 06:11 PM

My friend Tim Lory at Laguna Tools called me the other day and asked if I would post this here for any members that might be interested in getting one of the highest rated fences available for their bandsaws at a slight discount. Heres the excerpt from an e-mail that followed for any memebers here that might be interested again in the finest bandsaw fence out there

Tommy
“I am currently offering the Driftmaster Fence system for the low price of $325 ($70 off retail), and the 8” tall resaw fence upgrade for $119 ($36 off retail). Items may be purchased seperately.

Please feel free to either PM thru the forum with any questions, or contact me direct in office at (800) 234-1976 ext. 9665 to order.

Thanks! Tim

Tim’s a great person to deal with at Laguna and will do everthing in his power to ensure your happy,Having dealt with him for several yrs I can attest to his perpensity to make everyone purchase’s a happy one and thats not just about the fences he will make great deals on all Lagunas products


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#1 posted 03-02-2011 06:24 PM

I have one but never use it . The original fence comes off much easier when doing operations that you need it out of the way. If you make a lot of veneers it might be worth having,but other wise all you have to do is center your band saw blade properly on your wheels and you don’t have to worry about drift.

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#2 posted 03-02-2011 06:52 PM

Gee, If I had paid that much for Bandsaw Fence and never used it I might be disappointed in its performance as well. Perhaps you had it mounted improperly as when properly mounted they are easy to remove and provide excellent stability for resawing IMO:) Regarding your ideas about drift I have encountered a lot of drift especially when cutting larger hardwood pieces and my blades are true and centered on the wheels as well as everything else being coplaner,etc. I think your idea of what causes drift to be interesting as certain woods are in fact harder to cut and result in significant drift depending on how you cut it not necessarily how your blade is specifically centered on the wheels. Perhaps you can offer yours up here for sale to other members who might get an even more increased savings on a great bandsaw fence. BTW,What saw did you have it mounted to. I know they are somewhat difficult to mount to certain models properly,especially the older Grizzlys but not impossible when done properly

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#3 posted 03-02-2011 07:15 PM

Hi Tommy I did use the drift master and it was mounted properly, although I have a Laguna band saw it still mounts like it was made for a off brand saw. You would think that they would make mounting just as easy as the original fence. I had issues with how much it cost too. It’s kind of a rough piece of work in that the castings are not smooth and the fence is not aluminium as the original was,to look at it you would think it came from Harbor freight . I have more than one of Laguna’s tools and I know if I had it to do over I would buy the Grizzly band saw and mortiser and saved about $1800 and would not have lost any thing in the mix. I think Laguna is riding on good reviews from days gone buy and their pricing and engineering leave a lot to be desired. Sorry to disagree with you on this it seems your a Laguna fan.

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#4 posted 03-02-2011 08:28 PM

I would disagree with you merely because you obviously have a grudge against Laguna Tools as you have showcased in your explanations.They are superior IMO to Grizzly tools by far as they are primarily of european lineage as opposed to something made in china :),but keep on with your rant if necessary I’ll supply our friends in europe long before the chinese and be proud to have done so,but Laguna is by all means a superior product when compared to Grizzledly:)

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#5 posted 03-02-2011 08:39 PM

Not to gang up on Tommy, (I am sure you have good reason for your position, and that it has some validity), but, I have the 16HD band saw, and the model A1750 jointer/planer combo from Laguna, and I have issues with both. The band saw, for me anyway, is difficult to set up, the ceramic guides, I don’t think are as good as the roller type(that may be a good topic for a forum), the blade guard actually contacts the blade sometimes, it takes a little McGiver tactics to get it to stay clear, and I am not crazy about the fence(but in fairness, I don’t have enough experience with other to qualify as a legitimate evaluator on that), and the manual is not very good at all, not close to the professional manuals I have for most all of my other machines. On the A1750 it is a major job to get it set and stay square to the blade for jointer work, the fence is terrible, the adjustment knobs both broke, they have cheep plastic guts to them and could not take a firm tightening (they where not over tightened,just cheep junk) the fence itself does not come close to the quality of a Grizzly or any decent brand, the planner does not work very well, it is very prone to chip out,(I use it for getting things down close to what I want), they also provided the wrong manual for the machine, and to my knowledge did not, at the time, have the correct one available.

IN THEIR DEFENSE—The band saw is built like a brick shit house and will probably last for a number of lifetimes, the 4 1/2 horse power motor is the best motor I have ever seen and works like a smooth locomotive charging down the track, all sorts of power on this unit, and most everything els about it is made with real quality. On the jointer/planner, once you get it set up and perfect, it makes some real square boards, and it is real sturdy and heavy, and can handle 10” wide cuts to 50 or 60 lb ruff cut logs to square them up for re-sawing on the band saw with no problem, and the motor is a sealed 2 hp that runs smooth and powerful. My overall assessment is that they need to spend more time engineering their products before putting them out there, and the price is too high for the machine you are getting. These are just my machines, and the experience I have had with them, and not a judgment on Laguna as a whole, I am no expert and don’t claim to be one. From what I know, the people at Laguna are very nice and are as helpful as they can be, and if I where to pursue some satisfaction on these issues, I believe they just may try and do something for me, but, many times, if I have to go through trouble to make things right, I , just don’t deal with that brand anymore.

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#6 posted 03-02-2011 08:40 PM

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, on the Model 1750 it has MADE IN CHINA right on it. My band saw has “made in Italy”

And I will add that Jim’s evaluation seems to be based on facts and professional experience, which he has, and in no way resembles the depiction that you infer. These forums are supposed to be conducted with professional and ethical behavior, and are not to be used to insult or other wise undermine any ones opinion or position on a subject, thanks for sharing

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#7 posted 03-02-2011 10:44 PM

I never depicted anything in reference to Jim. I did question his motives perhaps as an individual who has a gripe about Laguna,much like yourself. I do know that the owner of Laguna is also a member here and has gone out of his way to satisfy claims made by others here about his tools. I think he has done a responsible attempt to keep his customer base satisfied. While no one can satify everyone and that might be a sticking point with Jim. I have seen the Driftmaster in use and have used it myself with no complaints about how well it works. Jim seemed to be determined to put up a blatant rant against Laguna tools much like yourselve as a disatissfied comsumer rather than one who had used that tool for any length of time. That being said the Driftmaster is a fine Bandsaw Fence and this is a great price. There may in fact be others here who have one or may possible still use one. I can only conclude my professional usage in the industry as an example of it being a fine tool.If I offeneded Jim ,which I’m sure I did not ,then I would apologize but I have said my peace on this matter and only hope that those interested in this fine Bandsaw Fence at least hear from others who use a bandsaw on a more professional basis other than sizing logs or whatever. A fence of this nature is inheritently desined for cutting and resawing lumber into thin veneers or smaller strips. It perfroms well for that and the point price value is excellent.

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#8 posted 03-02-2011 10:48 PM

So sorry to continue my rant tommy, regardless were tools are made the company that orders machinery is responsible for the standards including the engineering of the machines the order. My “Grudge” as you put it is more disappointment from a company that uses the quality of the products from Europe machinery approach in it’s marketing and does not in my opinion fulfill the promise. When you order an pay for a Mercedes you don’t expect a Borgward. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borgward_Isabella

No offense taken Tommy we just have different opinions that’s what makes the world go around
I’ll have to try my saw for trimming down logs and write a review LOL

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#9 posted 03-02-2011 11:56 PM

I have no gripe about Laguna- was just reporting on some facts about the machines I purchased

Jim did not seem to put up a blatant rant- seems he was just stating some facts about the fence

“more professional basis than sizes logs or whatever”- seems to be a insinuation that I may not be a professional

“They are superior IMO to Grizzly tools by far as they are primarily of european lineage as opposed to something made in china”- my model A1750 has it marked right on the label “made in china”

“used that tool for any length of time”-seems you think you have information on how long I have been using the tool

Look Tommy, I mean no disrespect to you, but, you really need to get your facts straight, I was just doing the same as Jim, making some factual statements about some products we had purchased, that’s it, no grudge, no blatant rant, please read over the reviews carefully and I am sure you will agree, as all will, that there is no problem here, good luck with your business, and have a great day, thanks for sharing

-- It's Mic Keep working and sharing

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#10 posted 03-03-2011 01:01 AM

OK, So we all agree to disagree,but as far as facts here there are none, only opinions as stated. Lets be sure about whats being said. As far as I knew most all of the Laguna line was being made in europe. I was wrong on that(good call) but for the most part they seem to be made in europe and as far as facts I only offered my opinion nothing was ever factually stated here except perhaps your made in china tool. Very seldom does one use a resaw fence for anything other than sizing wood,whether it be a log or a piece of dimensional lumber or cutting veneers, either way thats what that fence was and is designed for period and it performs quite well for that. But thanks for keeping this up here where I wanted it for folks to see what a good deal this is on a great fence.For a more in depth report on this fence please check out this link, http://sandal-woodsblog.com/category/reviews/

Have a nice day,Tommyt654

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