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12-05-2017 01:57 PM

Topic tags/keywords: wood walnut hikcory

Hi,
What is the difference between American walnut and hickory?

In images the wood is hickory?

Also what is the best thickness for veneer walnut/hickory?

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Thanks!


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#1 posted 12-05-2017 02:12 PM

Looks like hickory which can have the dramatic change in color from heartwood to sapwood. Walnut I’ve used has much darker heartwood.
Perhaps someone else can advise you on the veneer question.

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#2 posted 12-05-2017 03:27 PM

Definitely hickory. Walnut is much darker brown, and much more uniform. Typical veneer is .023” I think, but there are experts here who will chime in.

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#3 posted 12-05-2017 03:30 PM

Looks like Hickory, which is also much harder than walnut.

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#4 posted 12-05-2017 04:00 PM

Thanks for answers, so hickory and American walnut is the same?

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#5 posted 12-05-2017 04:06 PM

No. They are completely different species. Hickory is Carya, walnut is Juglans Nigra. Looks different, works different. Walnut is usually very easy to machine, hickory is notoriously difficult. If you are veneering, it wouldn’t matter, but if you are using solid wood, it matters a lot.

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#6 posted 12-05-2017 05:19 PM



No. They are completely different species. Hickory is Carya, walnut is Juglans Nigra. Looks different, works different. Walnut is usually very easy to machine, hickory is notoriously difficult. If you are veneering, it wouldn t matter, but if you are using solid wood, it matters a lot.

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I use veneer, I want the same color like in picture so it’s hickory?

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#7 posted 12-05-2017 06:03 PM

Not knowing where you are located there are also other woods this could be. Such as Pecan or Chestnut.

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#8 posted 12-05-2017 06:16 PM

Veneer can be as thick as you want it to be, usually as thin as possible to save on wood, the project I am working on at the moment will have 1/4” thick veneer on the legs with a solid Basswood core. Normally I would bo 1/8”.

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#9 posted 12-05-2017 07:16 PM

It looks like hickory to me, and not pecan. I haven’t seen much new chestnut, but the old stuff doesn’t look like that. Both pecan and old chestnut is pretty uniform color, like walnut (or maple or ash…).

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#10 posted 12-05-2017 07:18 PM

walnut lumber

hickory

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#11 posted 12-05-2017 07:24 PM

I think it’s hickory too.

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#12 posted 12-05-2017 07:39 PM

Hickory!

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#13 posted 12-07-2017 01:50 AM

The wood in your pics is hickory or pecan. Pecan is a hickory. Hickory is divided into two groups. The true hickories have 7 or less leaflets and the nuts are round. The pecan hickories (I believe that there are four) have more than 7 leaflets and the nuts are flattened or elongated. The wood from pecan and hickory is indistinguishable except by an expert. The only difference is that the true hickories have bands of apotracheal parenchyma running through the latewood. Pecan does too, but there is also some bands of parenchyma running through the earlywood. You have to have magnification to see this tiny difference. For all practical purposes, the wood of hickory and pecan is the same.

Hickory is in the walnut family, so it is a cousin to walnut. Hickory and pecan are much denser and harder than walnut, but they are both essentially nut trees. Both develop a rich heartwood color. Hickory and pecan has a nice golden brown heartwood color, walnut is more like dark chocolate. They are all among the most beautiful native woods in my opinion.

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#14 posted 12-07-2017 03:47 AM

I agree with Danny because that’s what I’ve been told several times by Mr Peterson. He’s says in a nice but load voice Hickory and pecan are the same. I used to think he was upset because I ask so many questions but now I realized he can’t hear himself. To many years around the machines in the mill shop. God bless him.:)

-- Aj

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