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Forum topic by becikeja posted 12-04-2017 02:38 AM 437 views 0 times favorited 17 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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becikeja

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12-04-2017 02:38 AM

What are the pros and cons of a shellac finish?

When using shellac flakes, when do you use Garnet, Orange, Blonde?

-- Don't outsmart your common sense


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#1 posted 12-04-2017 03:30 AM

The good…
Shellac dries quickly, allowing you to build a finish quickly.
Will stick to anything.
Blocks stains/knots in pine for future painting
Seals walls with ball point pen graffiti allowing painting with latex paint (don’t ask)
Anything sticks to it.
Can be thinned with alcohol.
Non toxic when dry.
Smells good. Well, doesn’t smell bad.
Finish easily repaired in the future
Removable with alcohol (refinishing)

The bad,
Not very water resistant, glasses leave rings easily
limited shelf life in liquid form

I love the stuff. It was the first finish I ever used (I was probably 10.)
Mostly use blonde, though have used orange when I wanted some color effect. Never used garnet.

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shipwright

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#2 posted 12-04-2017 03:45 AM

You can french polish with it.

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#3 posted 12-04-2017 03:51 AM

I mostly use platina, but orange and garnet when needed. See http://www.shellacshack.com/colors.html for a comparison of colors.

-- Dave - Minneapolis

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#4 posted 12-04-2017 04:20 AM

Shellac with a topcoat of wax is great for shop furniture, trinkets, tools. For extra protection I wipe a couple coats of poly on.

I use blonde for a relatively clear finish. Platina would be better but I’m fine with a bit of yellow. If I want something to be a little darker or want the look of patina I’ll use garnet.

Super easy to use. I French polish with it mostly but also brush it on if I’m in a hurry.

A piece of furniture for decoration, for limited use, or for where it’s negatives don’t matter (like shop furniture) i find it best for.

I love the stuff.

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#5 posted 12-04-2017 07:15 AM

The only cons of shellac are if you have sloppy drunks or don’t use coasters; otherwise it’s all pro’s. It’s my favorite finish. I use mostly blonde.

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#6 posted 12-04-2017 07:53 AM

right on, Rick M.

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becikeja

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#7 posted 12-04-2017 10:44 AM

Thanks for the feedback.
This is exactly what I needed to know.

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#8 posted 12-04-2017 01:07 PM

I use blonde these days, platina has gotten more expensive. No need for other colors if you have alcohol dye like Transtint – mixes directly into the shellac for whatever color and intensity desired. Agree with others – shellac is a great finish and as part of a finish schedule. It works great under a wb finish to give chatoyance, or grain pop.

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#9 posted 12-04-2017 01:28 PM

Amber shellac will make new pine look like old pine. I t helps if you are trying to match trim in an old house.

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#10 posted 12-04-2017 02:39 PM

Shellac’s hay days are unfortunately in the past with the appearance of new synthetic materials that are much tougher than shellac. It is still used for low usage items like picture frames but most furniture is finished by some other means.

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#11 posted 12-04-2017 03:30 PM

Shellac in liquid form doesn’t keep for a long time, but mixing your own is quick and easy. I keep a large jar of “seed” shellac (dry small chunks of shellac directly from the trees with some shellac bugs and tree bark embedded) ready for mixing. I just pour some dry “seed ” shellac into a glass jar. Then I pour some alcohol in the jar, enough to thoroughly dissolve the shellac plus some, but only enough to allow for future addition of more alcohol to dilute it to the consistency I want to brushing, spraying, etc. After a couple of hours of sitting with stirring every so often the solid shellac is dissolved. But it still has the bugs and bark. That means you have to strain it. I use another empty jar to make my final mixed and thinned shellac. I then fold up a paper funnel and snip the end off. I use a piece of wadded up women’s hose as a filter and plug it into the snipped off hole of the paper funnel. With the filter funnel in the jar mouth, I carefully pour the mixed shellac through the strainer/funnel. The strained shellac is now ready for use. Thin it further to suit your use.

You can store the hard beads of “seed” shellac for a long period in a sealed glass jar and it won’t go bad.

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#12 posted 12-04-2017 03:43 PM

Shellac is used on a lot of baby and kids furniture because it is completely nontoxic. You can literally eat shellac flakes (though I don’t recommend it, they taste terrible). You obviously can’t drink liquid shellac, since denatured alcohol will cause blindness and/or death, but once the alcohol flashes off, it’s perfectly safe to chew on the finished furniture.

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#13 posted 12-04-2017 04:38 PM

It looks great on maple drawer sides. I leave mine natural color, and the clear Shellac Bullseye Sealcoat by Zinsser is just the ticket.

It is also a great intermediate step in Jeff Jewitt’s stain-over dye technique.

Thin Sealcoat 50/50 with denatured alcohol for a perfect pre-stain conditioner on blotch prone woods like cherry.

I still prefer sprayed lacquer as my primary furniture finish (more durable, sprays better).

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shipwright

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#14 posted 12-04-2017 07:03 PM



Shellac is used on a lot of baby and kids furniture because it is completely nontoxic. You can literally eat shellac flakes (though I don t recommend it, they taste terrible). You obviously can t drink liquid shellac, since denatured alcohol will cause blindness and/or death, but once the alcohol flashes off, it s perfectly safe to chew on the finished furniture.

- jonah


It dissolves just as well in pure ethanol. ...... then you could drink it, maybe with a little orange juice. :-)

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Rich

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#15 posted 12-04-2017 07:13 PM


It dissolves just as well in pure ethanol. ...... then you could drink it, maybe with a little orange juice. :-)

- shipwright

Anyone remember The Furniture Guys? Hilarious show. Anyway, Joe insisted that Everclear was a superior solvent for shellac due to its more thorough distillation than DNA. I tried it once, but couldn’t tell a difference. But what do I know?

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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