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Forum topic by richardchaos posted 12-03-2017 12:02 PM 774 views 0 times favorited 22 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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richardchaos

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12-03-2017 12:02 PM

I don’t know so I will ask. Is there certain nSTUff in a typical woodworkers shop that should never be allowed to freeze??

I am pretty sure latex paint and primer can freeze and will still be good..

Calk?

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell


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Fred Hargis

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#1 posted 12-03-2017 12:09 PM

Waterborne finishes should not be allowed to freeze, at least according to Target Coatings. there’s a broad opinion that PVA glue should not be allowed to freeze, but according to Franklin (Titebond) it can actually freeze/thaw up to 5 times without damaging the glue (of course, t has to be room temp to use, and for the record Franklin recommends you not let it freeze). Otherwise, if it can freeze and break the container that would be a bad thing but most other stuff is OK. I’ll take your word on the latex paint since I don’t keep it in the shop.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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richardchaos

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#2 posted 12-03-2017 12:14 PM

Well I had some KILLS and 123 primer and some latex interior wall paint I know has been frozen many times and I used it to paint my inside of my shop and some selves and pegboard and stuff. Had to get the settled stuff off the bottom took a little effort but it seems to be time now.

I wonder about Liquid Nails


Waterborne finishes should not be allowed to freeze, at least according to Target Coatings. there s a broad opinion that PVA glue should not be allowed to freeze, but according to Franklin (Titebond) it can actually freeze/thaw up to 5 times without damaging the glue (of course, t has to be room temp to use, and for the record Franklin recommends you not let it freeze). Otherwise, if it can freeze and break the container that would be a bad thing but most other stuff is OK. I ll take your word on the latex paint since I don t keep it in the shop.

- Fred Hargis

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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#3 posted 12-03-2017 12:49 PM

Don’t leave a quarter full coffee cup for a few days in an un heated shop. Even after thawed, it tastes terrible.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Slider20

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#4 posted 12-03-2017 01:05 PM

I think most construction adhesives Say not to freeze.

Finishing and glue ups are very challenging this time of year in New York. Other than that remember to Oil your tools, I don’t woodwork as much as I normally do and some serious rust can accumulate.

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bondogaposis

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#5 posted 12-03-2017 01:10 PM

PVA glue should not freeze, hide glue is ok with freezing. I keep my shop so it does not get below 46°F, I’ve not had a problem with glue or finishes at those temps.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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Tennessee

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#6 posted 12-03-2017 01:53 PM

I just moved South….

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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#7 posted 12-03-2017 02:21 PM

Thermostat on 60 degrees, shop never freezes. I bump it up to 68 when I go out there. Love to work in a Tee shirt…Of course, this is Virginia, so a lot less of an issue than you guys up there in the Great White North…

-- Murphy's Carpentry Corollary #3: Half of all boards cut to a specific length will be too short.

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#8 posted 12-03-2017 02:32 PM

It’s better not to let any of it freeze. Still seems to affect pigments.

-- Nature created it, I just assemble it.

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Rich

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#9 posted 12-03-2017 03:03 PM


Don t leave a quarter full coffee cup for a few days in an un heated shop. Even after thawed, it tastes terrible.

- Gene Howe

LOL

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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HorizontalMike

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#10 posted 12-03-2017 04:23 PM


Don t leave a quarter full coffee cup for a few days in an un heated shop. Even after thawed, it tastes terrible.
- Gene Howe

LOL
- Rich

On the OTHER hand, a highball glass of Jack Daniels will NEVER freeze if left out in the shop…

Well at least that is what I have heard. I have never managed to leave something like that unattended for so long, so this is what is rumored/speculated. ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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William Shelley

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#11 posted 12-03-2017 05:13 PM

Honestly I think if you can prevent things from freezing, do it. If it’s as simple as storing your gallon jugs of glue in your house or in a cabinet with an incandescent light bulb that you leave on or something, then do it.

Latex paint should never freeze according to Behr. Freezing does a number on pretty much anything water-based. I would never use a glue or paint or finish that has frozen, on an item destined for a customer/client.

-- Woodworking from an engineer's perspective

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#12 posted 12-03-2017 06:51 PM

You can let your beer go a little below 30 F, but not much. To avoid the ultimate catastrophe, please be careful.

-- “Big man, pig man, ha ha, charade you are.” ― R. Waters

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Rich

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#13 posted 12-03-2017 07:22 PM


On the OTHER hand, a highball glass of Jack Daniels will NEVER freeze if left out in the shop…

Well at least that is what I have heard. I have never managed to leave something like that unattended for so long, so this is what is rumored/speculated. ;-)

- HorizontalMike

I like your style. I’ve long argued that a few whiskeys before operating power tools makes them safer because you’re relaxed and less likely to flinch. Same is true with firearms, especially the higher calibers.

-- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. We just don’t know which half! — Bob Flexner

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#14 posted 12-03-2017 07:39 PM


On the OTHER hand, a highball glass of Jack Daniels will NEVER freeze if left out in the shop…

Well at least that is what I have heard. I have never managed to leave something like that unattended for so long, so this is what is rumored/speculated. ;-)

- HorizontalMike

I like your style. I ve long argued that a few whiskeys before operating power tools makes them safer because you re relaxed and less likely to flinch. Same is true with firearms, especially the higher calibers.

- Rich


Nothing more fun than setting the depth of cut when you’ve had a few…unless it’s making the cut.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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HorizontalMike

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#15 posted 12-03-2017 09:11 PM


On the OTHER hand, a highball glass of Jack Daniels will NEVER freeze if left out in the shop…
Well at least that is what I have heard. I have never managed to leave something like that unattended for so long, so this is what is rumored/speculated. ;-)
- HorizontalMike

I like your style. I ve long argued that a few whiskeys before operating power tools makes them safer because you re relaxed and less likely to flinch. Same is true with firearms, especially the higher calibers.
- Rich

Wow Rich, so YOU do BOTH at the same time huh…

Not I, when I am done WW-ing I may enjoy happy hour in the shop AFTER all power/hand tools are put away/powered-down. I guess it all is in how some of us are brought up. BTW, I still have all body parts intact.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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