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noone

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12-03-2017 03:06 AM

I just bought this and am having buyers remorse, probably for no reason. Did I pay too much? It does not look like it was used much and I picked it up from an elderly man. Came with a mobile base too.

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#1 posted 12-03-2017 04:36 AM

IMO I think you got a good deal. Looks like you paid between 50-60% of the current new price. It has all the features you’d want, especially the helical head.
If you’ve still got buyers remorse and live around Houston, let me know. I can remedy the regret.

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#2 posted 12-03-2017 04:40 AM

I agree. I don’t think you’ve got anything to regret.

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noone

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#3 posted 12-03-2017 05:13 AM

Thanks for the reassurance.

Now for the whole, embarrassing story:

I’ve been looking for a quality PM 8” jointer for a few years.

I found this and it was one hour and forty minutes away but as you can see, super clean. I wanted it and decided I would drive for it since something this clean in the 8’ variety doesn’t come around often.

Today was the second time I have ever driven a small trailer rental from U-Haul. I picked up the trailer last night ($16.00) at 8pm and then parked it at my house and left to go drive to pick this unit up at 4:30am to drive 1hour and 40 minutes away.

I drove all the way there and back on the interstates in excess of 70mph and then inside the neighborhood, right around the corner from my house, the trailer breaks away from my suv going 30 mph. The rear of the trailer immediately falls to the pavement and starts dragging (the jointer was in the back of the trailer) and I see the trailer fish tailing getting ready to flip as the only thing that is holding it is the chains. I tried stopping slowly but the trailer arm high in the air raised up smashes into the back of my SUV’s tailgate mangling it and the bumper.

The jointer was 4 way nylon ratchet strapped in and was not damaged and neither was the trailer. It sure looked like it was going to fly off in the rear view mirror but those straps held and only 1 became loose which shifted the jointer some.

It turns out that in a rush last night when I picked up the trailer, I didn’t lock the small pin down that holds the hitch pin in and it had worked its way out after driving over 200 miles.

It’s looking like I’m going to need to file an insurance claim for this, but at least it didn’t happen on the highway and no one was hurt.

It was a valuable life lesson learned here today.

Takeaways;

1. Check and double check the hitch pin is locked in.
2. Put weight forward not aft in a trailer.
3. If a trailer does still happen to come off, slow down extremely gradually!

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#4 posted 12-03-2017 07:34 AM

I’ve a seen a couple rear loaded trailers wiggle loose. Definitely a no-no.

Ok price. Not the greatest not the worst. Fair.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Fred Hargis

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#5 posted 12-03-2017 12:13 PM

I’ve had that happen once with an empty trailer, not fun. Your deal was OK, like Fridge said…not great but not bad (paraphrase). It will serve you a very long time…..the trip is just a memory now, move on.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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Tennessee

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#6 posted 12-03-2017 01:56 PM

The Powermatic? Good deal in my mind.
The back of your SUV? Not so much. But you’ll laugh at the whole thing in a few months, as you joint and plane beautiful lumber across your helix Powermatic…

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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#7 posted 12-03-2017 07:38 PM

I wouldn’t have buyers remorse about buying that machine. You got a US made Powermatic with a helical head, looks like it’s in great condition and well cared for, for half the price of a new machine. Well done. I stalked Craig’s list for a year looking for that exact machine and only came across one, with straight knives, and it sold in under 4 hours for $800 (not to me).

The part about the car stinks, however….

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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#8 posted 12-03-2017 07:51 PM

Powermatic doesn’t make anything in the US anymore.

Not a bad deal. More than I would have paid, but then PM stuff is pretty overpriced in general.

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#9 posted 12-03-2017 08:07 PM

Thanks guys. It turns out that I have accident forgiveness with my vehicle insurance so that learning lesson should end up costing me no more than my $500 deductible in theory.

Now I need to read up on how to tune this thing up. I started watching The Wood Whisperer’s jointer tuning tutorial on YouTube and I sure hope I can get mine tuned in less than 3 hours. I also hope I can get it whipped into shape with my Home Depot grade straight edge unlike The Wood Whisperer’s $100 super duper special straight edge. LOL.

Thanks again for the interesting feedback.

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#10 posted 12-04-2017 01:24 AM

After buying a parallelogram jointer from Grizzly there is no way I could go back to having a jointer that rides on dovetail ways. You just can’t get the outfeed perfectly parrelell with the cutter head not the infeed perfectly parrelell with the outfeed.

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#11 posted 12-04-2017 01:29 AM

A good (and cheap) straightedge option is aluminum extrusions from Grainger. You can get a 72” long 1”x2” extrusion for something like $33 that is straight as can be. No shipping if you pick it up at a store.

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#12 posted 12-04-2017 01:35 AM

A lot of fine furniture was built by fine craftsman for a lot of years on jointers with dovetail ways . Personalty I’d take the powermatic over the grizzly.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#13 posted 12-04-2017 02:12 AM

With the Helix head? That’s a good deal. Don’t sweat it.

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noone

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#14 posted 12-04-2017 02:48 AM

Well, looks like I have a lot of tuning to do.

The head is not perfectly in plane with the outfeed table and the outfeed (or infeed) table sags.

Is the correct procedure to first get the outfeed table aligned with the infeed table and then shim the head so it’s even with both sides of the outfeed table?

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#15 posted 12-04-2017 03:00 AM


Well, looks like I have a lot of tuning to do.

The head is not perfectly in plane with the outfeed table and the outfeed (or infeed) table sags.

Is the correct procedure to first get the outfeed table aligned with the infeed table and then shim the head so it’s even with both sides of the outfeed table?

- noone

The first thing you do is clean it, make sure all the nuts and bolt are snug. Then get some wood and see how it preforms. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Don’t start adjusting things until you know why your adjusting things.
Check out this site, some good information here.
http://www.newwoodworker.com/jntrprobfxs.html

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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