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Vintagewood1960

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12-01-2017 05:37 AM

Having the day off I decided to stop by a local hardwood dealer that is 20 min away. I’m looking to make a built in entertainment center and would like to make the face frame out of cherry. What I have envisioned in my mind is to purchased some wider flat sawn boards and rip the outer straight grain “riff?” For the Rails and the center cathedral grain for the Stiles. Does that sound at all like a common practice? The owner was not available so a helper showed me around. Very nice fellow but his English was not the best. From what I could gather the trunk is cut on a miser the wood is air dried for a period and then kiln dried on site. It is then planed to 13/16 it may have been marked 15/16 I just can’t recall. Then it was flat stacked in a very orderly fashion. The fellow opened a sliding corrugated metal door and the cherry was stacked (fifty boards in all) well above my head and all I could see was painted end grain (color coded?) Using two steps on a ladder I pulled a 8ft 8inch wide board 15/16th ? Thick down. It looked nice and clear and was 5.00 bd ft. The price seemed fair but I was a little concerned about being able to go though the limited selection and pick out the best for my needs looked like a lot of effort to make that happen. Is this a typical hardwood setup ? I have a planer and jointer so I was really looking to by some 4/4 skip planed wood like I’ve read is more typical. Appreciate any advice you can give me.


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Manitario

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#1 posted 12-01-2017 06:23 AM

You get what you have available to you where you live! I’m lucky and live in a town where I have a hardwood dealer where I can get 4/4 rough wood and sort through the lumber stacks at my leisure, but the city I lived in a few years ago only had S4S hardwood and a very limited supply.

$5/bf is an excellent deal compared to the almost $9/bf I pay where I live….

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#2 posted 12-01-2017 06:48 AM

5$ is ok. Not all places like you cherry picking what you want so they can keep the stock rotating.

13 & 15/16 are common around here.

Sounds more like a mom and pop but I could be wrong. Hell. If he doesn’t have he might know someone that does.

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Woodmaster1

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#3 posted 12-01-2017 06:52 AM

The club I belong to has a nice selection of hardwood. We mill and dry our own. Cherry is 3.00 bdft for 4/4 up to 8” and 3.50 bdft over 8”. 6/4 and up is 3.50 bdft up to 8” and 4.00 bdft over 8” wide. We were low on cherry until this week now we have a nice selection that was donated for us to sell to members.

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bigJohninvegas

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#4 posted 12-01-2017 04:29 PM

Sounds about right. You have to dig through the stack to get what suits your needs. Big projects may cost several hours at the lumber yard. Typically you must re stack all the lumber you sort through. I live in Vegas, and all the hardwood is trucked in. Higher cost for me. And I was just quoted Last week $4.16 bf for 25/32 cherry.

-- John

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#5 posted 12-01-2017 04:59 PM

varies – - I get stock from intermountain Wood in Wichita KS… and They allow me to pick through so long as I put the stack back together nicely
http://intermountainwood.com/

In the past, I bought in Kansas City.
Liberty Hardwood supplies all the schools and commercial shops. They ship to business only, but don’t let you pick through the stacks.
However they have a Retail Store – - “Metro Hardwoods”...which is for the hobbyist and has everything in vertical bins that you can pick through. as well as router bits, finishes.
If you need delivery… it shows up on a “Liberty Hardwood Truck” :-)

I still go to Metro for exotic wood though – intermountain is only domestic hardwood.

http://www.metrohardwoodsinc.com/

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#6 posted 12-01-2017 05:25 PM

I go to stores with vertical lumber racks.

Actually, I don’t go to lumber stores much anymore because I built my own kiln. My “lumber store” is a 50 ft walk from my shop. My best deal so far was 22 cents per bf on a load of QS white oak. I sent that guy a Christmas card.

Ripping certain grain type from a board is common practice. I think you have the right idea to use the straight grained rift sawn stock for the frames, and the cathedral flatsawn parts for the panels.

Good luck!

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YesHaveSome

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#7 posted 12-01-2017 05:28 PM



varies – - I get stock from intermountain Wood in Wichita KS… and They allow me to pick through so long as I put the stack back together nicely
http://intermountainwood.com/

In the past, I bought in Kansas City.
Liberty Hardwood supplies all the schools and commercial shops. They ship to business only, but don t let you pick through the stacks.
However they have a Retail Store – - “Metro Hardwoods”...which is for the hobbyist and has everything in vertical bins that you can pick through. as well as router bits, finishes.
If you need delivery… it shows up on a “Liberty Hardwood Truck” :-)

I still go to Metro for exotic wood though – intermountain is only domestic hardwood.

http://www.metrohardwoodsinc.com/

- DrDirt

Have you tried Mark Frieden Hardwoods in Pomona? I went there a few weeks ago and got some walnut, padauk and yellowheart. The walnut was half the price of metro for 4/4.

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Vintagewood1960

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#8 posted 12-02-2017 03:56 AM

Thanks for the replies! I went to a second hardwood dealer today that was in a more populated area and the price for 4/4 cherry fas 3.39 and #1 common was 2.10 bd ft. All of it was S2S to 3/4 but I was told if I called ahead they would pull rough sawn 4/4 for me. I’m concerned that the S2S would result in more waste than rough sawn. I know the rough is extra work but my main objective is to get the most bang for my buck.

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