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Forum topic by WalkinWoods posted 11-30-2017 04:49 PM 279 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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WalkinWoods

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11-30-2017 04:49 PM

I’m going to add a dedicated router table to my small shop. In adding up the components (Incra lift & fence, dedicated router PC 75182, etc.) it’s getting over $1000 depending on the fence, buy or build table, etc.

Would I be better off getting the Grizzly G1026 – 3 HP Shaper for a dedicated table (~$1,200)?

If you had to drop $1,200-ish on a routing option, would you get a shaper or an Incra type system?


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TheFridge

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#1 posted 11-30-2017 05:04 PM

Shaped for big profiles and router for medium small is what I’d do.

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WalkinWoods

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#2 posted 11-30-2017 05:39 PM

So you’d get both then. My wife is going to love that answer ;)

I do have some bigger profile things in the future—doors. But mostly tables, and family type stuff. This is definitely not a production operation.

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#3 posted 11-30-2017 06:06 PM

i bought my shaper because it was cheaper than to replace my PC 690, 1 1/2hp router that i had in my table. it’s nice to have the shaper for doors but if i could only have one, i’d probably go with the router table. i’ve tried running the ultimate bit on the shaper @10k but it seems to do better at little higher speeds. i’m sure 75182 with a speed controller will handle just about anything

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#4 posted 11-30-2017 06:30 PM

I agree with Fridge. I see them as two different (but similar) machines.

In my opinion, a router table is best suited for smaller profiles and tooling like round overs, etc. You will have a lot of profile options with a router, which is handy, and the tooling is usually less expensive (unless you get into insert cutter heads for shapers).

For larger work like raised panel doors the shaper is a much better alternative for a number of reasons. You will get a much better finished cut on large parts like raised panels with a shaper, it has more power and it’s safer (especially with a power feeder which I highly recommend). Individual cutters are generally more expensive, but with an insert head that can be greatly reduced.

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#5 posted 11-30-2017 06:37 PM

I vote for the router table. Overall, with your “small shop”, how many larger profiles do you do in a year, compared to the possibly hundreds of small profiles. And bits are cheaper than shaper cutters. And I know you can get an insert head, but that is kind of like putting a 10HP engine on a weed wacker.

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WalkinWoods

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#6 posted 12-02-2017 04:57 PM

Thanks all. I decided not to get the shaper.

And for now I decided not to get the Incra table or fence. I’m going to get the Incra Master Lift II, drop in a Bosch 1617 and make my own table and fence. I’ll up-power to the PC 75182 if I find I need it.

Reason? Most everyone on forums and reviewers love the Incra fence. The table got some mixed reviews for not remaining flat with heavy routers, but most liked it. But I also noticed many who said they loved the Incra fence but didn’t seem to use all the features. And a number seemed frustrated with the learning curve. So, since I’m not sure exactly where I’ll end up after my current list of projects (which don’t all involve dovetails), I decided to build a solid table and basic fence. If I had to guess, I think the next step might be the Kreg fence. We’ll see.

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