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Forum topic by Alexander posted 02-26-2011 12:18 AM 969 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Alexander

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02-26-2011 12:18 AM

This is a wall clock from “The Session Clock Company”, Forestville, Conn. They started in business around 1902 and were in business up to around 1950. This clock was given to me by my friend Ralph Chavez. It was given to Ralph’s Great Grandfather as a gift for his services as a “Alcalde” (which is a judge of first instance or Municipal maagistrate) of a small Pueblo in Mexico. The clock was passed down from the Great Grandfather to Grandfather to father to Ralph and then to me.

OK! History over. The last picture is of the back of the clock . I sanded the wood where it was not finished and got red dust. The back is 3 pieces of wood glued together. The wood where finsihed looks to be a Walnut finish.

1. What kind of wood could this be?
2. By gluing and re-naling the case do I less the value of an old clock.
3. There is a section missing on the bottom and I have not found any web site to compare pictures. Any suggestions?

Go here http://s1040.photobucket.com/albums/b401/johnyce_photos/Session%20wall%20clock/ to see pictures

Thanks for your help

-- John at Sugarloft Mountain........Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.


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therookie

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#1 posted 02-26-2011 04:04 AM

to me it looks like some really old black wlanut. But I could be wrong.

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#2 posted 02-26-2011 04:13 AM

Hard to tell, But,... Cherry was used a lot back in the day.
So thats my guess

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#3 posted 02-26-2011 04:25 AM

Would black walnut provide red dust when sanding? I was able to sand a unfinish part of the wood and got red dust. Also the wood was not of the best quailty on the inside and you can see red wood. The outside of the case has a finish like light walnut or light oak, maybe red oak. What about smell? What would the cherry smell like?

-- John at Sugarloft Mountain........Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

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#4 posted 02-26-2011 04:28 AM

I think that it is black walnut, but it could be cherry, if it has had a lot of light exposure to age it and darken it. take a look at an are which wouldnt be exposed, possibly the bottom if it was always upright, or the inside around the mechanism. I notice the inside around the pendulum is quite dark, so Im leaning toward walnut, but that area could have substantial aging too. as far as gluing goes, im no expert, but the basic guideline is to do as little as possible to keep it together, if anything is peeling, inject some glue and clamp flat so it doesnt splinter off, avoid visible fasteners like nails, dont replace anything, and dont sand or refinish. if you want to do something about the bottom, make a stand that fixes the appearance, but dont attatch anything.

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therookie

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#5 posted 02-26-2011 04:29 AM

well it could be cherry, walnut or some redwood. It is hard to tell, because you can get red dust from different types stains.. I dont know for sure. Cherry has a smell that is very hard to describe, my advice is to find a woodworker in your area and have them pull out some samples of wood and smell them then compare the smells to the clock.

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#6 posted 02-26-2011 04:30 AM

could be mahogany

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Alexander

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#7 posted 02-26-2011 05:52 AM

There were already nails in the case and judging from the nails on the glass stops I think this was when it was put together. Other nails, finish nails , have been added. Some of the finish has been sanded already. So I guess the damage had already been done befoe I got. I guess I’ll try to match the stain and put a coat of shellac on it. Or maybe just a light stain and put it back together. I still know the history and know that it is well over 100 years old. I don’t intend to sell it so maintaining the hightest value is not important.

Thanks LJ

-- John at Sugarloft Mountain........Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

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#8 posted 02-27-2011 04:54 PM

John,

Being from Connecticut and living around the forestville area for quite some time you may want to check in with the clock museum in Bristol CT. Forestville abutts Bristol, it may even be a part of Bristol. I bet they would have some great information on the company. Here’s a link to their website … http://www.clockandwatchmuseum.org/Home.asp.

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#9 posted 02-27-2011 06:36 PM

Thanks for the web site. I’LL give it a try.

-- John at Sugarloft Mountain........Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.

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