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Forum topic by Fenny posted 11-24-2017 06:03 PM 351 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Fenny

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11-24-2017 06:03 PM

Hey guys, so I know this isn’t exactly your usual comparison as there are significant differences between these two saws (not to mention 35+ years!) but they are currently two models I’m looking at. I was pretty set on the Ridgid R4512 but was recently offered an older 240v 12” Craftsman saw, model 113.24181 from a neighbour for $50. It’s and oldie but looks to have had minimal use and well maintained. I’m curious if it would work for my needs and save me a few hundred dollars on the Ridgid.

So first off, before you recommend a different brand or style know that my plans are to make it a movable job desk/table saw. So a dedicated cabinet saw is not really feasible for my workspace, as much as I’d like one. I’d be putting an incra ts-ls joinery system on the saw, with a router and making it a movable table that I can wheel around the garage. Note, it can’t be too deep either as it has to go up against the back wall in the winter and allow for my wife to park her car in place in front of it. All that has conspired against me and makes a cabinet saw not feasible.

The plan was to remove the steel side material supports and the rail/fence off the ridgid to replace it with the incra system and a built up cabinet. I’d also remove the base stand so that it would better fit into the rolling table. I would do the same for the craftsman.

So anyways, what are your thoughts on the two? This would be the one table saw in the garage, from framing to cabinetry. All work is in house, I’m not a contractor. I do like precision and quality but again, it’s for personal use on an historical victorian century home with a TON of woodworking needs (floors, cabinets, buil-ins, trim, board and baton, etc…). Advantages vs disadvantages? Thanks!


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#1 posted 11-24-2017 06:41 PM

I would definitely go with the $50 saw. I’m sure the quality would be better than a new, made in China saw. I would make sure the arbor has zero play in it as bearings might be needed and that can cos more than $50.

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#2 posted 11-24-2017 06:54 PM

For $50 you can’t really go wrong even if it does need bearings. Old classic house, old classic saw. A perfect match.
You could re-sell it on CL for more.

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#3 posted 11-25-2017 01:03 AM

Buy the freaking $50 saw. If u don’t like it you can make ur money back by selling it

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#4 posted 11-25-2017 02:43 AM

I’d keep looking… that Craftsman is a direct drive unit, and the Rigid is… well, do a search and you can come to your own conclusion :)

You can find nice used C-man belt driven contractor saws for $50-$100 most any day of the week on CL. And even if it needs bearings, you are looking at maybe another $20.

Cheers,
Brad

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#5 posted 11-25-2017 03:05 AM

Keep in mind that contractor type saws actually take up more space than cabinet saws because of the motor hanging off the back. Also any cabinet saw can be put onto a mobile base and wheeled around the shop.

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#6 posted 11-25-2017 01:46 PM

I don’t know that exact model but I’d find it odd that a 240v old saw would b a direct drive. It’s my assumption that it’s belt driven Either way it’s worth more than $50 in parts so if it’s in good shape it’s a good deal. Also I believe that some of the old belt driven motors could b 120 or 240 so if it is belt driven you might check and see if it could b change back to 120 (If you’d want to)

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#7 posted 11-25-2017 01:56 PM

Looking at the pictures, it’s not belt driven in the normal contractor saw sense. It may be some funny direct drive induction motor hybrid.

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#8 posted 11-25-2017 03:04 PM

Thanks guys, made the drive up late last night and it took all of 5 seconds to say yes to the deal. It’s in great shape for a 40 year old saw…man, if I look this good at 40 I’ll consider myself lucky! Pretty much no rust other than some faint stuff on the cast table, should wipe off easily. Arbor is nice and tight, everything looks like it was really well taken care of. Only reason she is getting rid of it is the new place she bought is much smaller and has no 240v in the garage.

As mentioned, worst case scenario I turn around and sell it to get my money back or even piece it out on ebay to make a profit. But right now I’m going to give it a whirl and see how it performs.


I d keep looking… that Craftsman is a direct drive unit, and the Rigid is… well, do a search and you can come to your own conclusion :)
You can find nice used C-man belt driven contractor saws for $50-$100 most any day of the week on CL. And even if it needs bearings, you are looking at maybe another $20.

I do believe you are correct, it is direct drive, I’ve had a bit of difficulty finding decent ones in my area that are priced well. We’re a bit rural Ontario Canada and our classifieds are over priced IMHO. For $50 I’ve got nothing to loose, but you may see another thread in a year or so if this doesn’t work out.

Keep in mind that contractor type saws actually take up more space than cabinet saws because of the motor hanging off the back. Also any cabinet saw can be put onto a mobile base and wheeled around the shop.

Yes, that was an issue I was running into and was one of the reasons I was considering the newer Rigid model. The cabinet saw on the mobile base is in my future at some point, but not until I can clear out more room in the garage. 4 kids means a lot of crap taking up my shop space; bikes, ski equipment, big toys, fishing gear, boating gear, etc… as they age and leave home (I sure hope they leave home!) that space will open up and I’ll be looking at larger tools. The challenge is that right now I’m planning (not a done deal) to put all the frequently used tools against the back wall. My mitre saw, the most frequently used tool I have, needs a lot of room as I do a lot of long cuts. So I’ve been looking to sneak the other tools either under the bench on either side of it, or make it part of the bench. So once I start integrating a cabinet saw into a mobile work bench I’m just a bit worried the height will get too tall to sneak under a bench without making that bench ridiculously high. The contractor saw I can pull off it base and easily integrate into a mobile work bench….just my plan for now (in my head) may change later. $50 on this guy basically means I can give this plan a go at no significant cost (other than time) and if I don’t like it, start hunting for a cabinet saw for workbench 2.0.

I don t know that exact model but I d find it odd that a 240v old saw would b a direct drive. It s my assumption that it s belt driven Either way it s worth more than $50 in parts so if it s in good shape it s a good deal. Also I believe that some of the old belt driven motors could b 120 or 240 so if it is belt driven you might check and see if it could b change back to 120 (If you d want to)
- JCamp

Thanks! I’m pretty sure this one is 240 direct drive and from the manual I briefly flipped through I didn’t see anything about a 120 conversion. But not a big deal, I’m in the process of wiring in the garage and have plans for a few 240 sources.
Thanks again guys, once I’ve had a chance to give it a decent go I’ll report back!

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