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Forum topic by SuperCubber posted 11-22-2017 02:09 PM 395 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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SuperCubber

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11-22-2017 02:09 PM

Hey everyone,

I am very new to turning. I have some home made carbide tools that I’ve been using on my mini lathe. They work well enough, but they don’t seem to be a complete solution. I’ve been wanting to get some traditional tools since the beginning, but I’m not in any hurry (I hardly have time for turning as it is now). I’ve already purchased a slow speed grinder and a wolverine jig, because I got great deals on them.

I’d like to get some opinions on a couple Black Friday deals. Peachtree has their Savannah 8-piece set on sale for $43.99. Seems like a really good price. Woodcraft has their Woodriver 5-piece set on sale for $99. That also sounds like a really good price. I’m okay with spending the $100, also realizing that I’ll need to add a chisel or two (five) as time goes on.

I have used the Woodriver tools before and was quite fond of the length of the handles. The Savannah ones are quite a bit shorter (around 6”).

You thoughts on the different sets and whether or not those are actually good deals are much appreciated.

Thanks!

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine


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#1 posted 11-22-2017 02:20 PM

I have several sets of the WR tools, they have done very well, no complaints

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#2 posted 11-22-2017 02:58 PM

Thank you, Charles! I value your knowledge and opinions.

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#3 posted 11-22-2017 03:06 PM

makes me wanna buy a set LMAO :<))

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#4 posted 11-22-2017 03:07 PM

The Savannah set looks to be identical to the set of Benjamin’s Best (PSI) ones I bought for about twice that price. Mine are very good even at that price. Only thing obviously different is the name burned into the handle. Looks to be a great price that I don’t think you’ll beat anywhere else.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#5 posted 11-22-2017 03:21 PM

Check out D Way tools and Thompson tools, make your own handles and get a high quality tool for just a little more. I use Sorby and P&N tools and they are ok, probably a mid range in quality, but the other two are higher quality for less money because there is no middleman

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#6 posted 11-22-2017 05:36 PM

I tried carbide, once I learned how to use hss tools properly Ive left the carbide in the tool holder. The WR set looks like a good deal IF you use all the tools, which depends on what you turn. I find some use for a 1/4” bowl gouge. Not a fan of oval skews prefer square. The others will get used.

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#7 posted 11-22-2017 07:53 PM



The Savannah set looks to be identical to the set of Benjamin s Best (PSI) ones I bought for about twice that price. Mine are very good even at that price. Only thing obviously different is the name burned into the handle. Looks to be a great price that I don t think you ll beat anywhere else.

- Lazyman

Very good feedback. Thanks!

Do you ever feel like they aren’t long enough? I guess that’s my main concern. I learned to turn with the Woodrivers.

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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Lazyman

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#8 posted 11-22-2017 09:10 PM

Since these are primarily spindle turning tools, they are plenty long for me on my midi lathe for spindle turning. I suppose that what you are turning and your position relative to the height of the lathe can make a difference. When turning bowls, my tool of choice for roughing is a longer bowl gouge because you need the leverage. Once I have the rough shape done, I usually prefer my shorter bowl gouges because the longer ones can be harder to manipulate within the shorter swing, especially when refining the interior and finishing the bowl.

You didn’t mention what you are turning. If you are mostly turning bowls, this is not the right set. You should look for a set of bowl gouges and perhaps a round side scraper. Except for hollow forms with the end grain towards the spindle and tailstock, spindle gouges like these should not be used on bowls. This type of tines on these and most spindle tools are not safe to use on bowl blanks with the end grain spinning at a right angle to the spindle. The spindle gouge in this set is okay to use on bowls because it is more solid than the others.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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#9 posted 11-23-2017 12:33 AM

Nathan, thanks again. Quite detailed responses for a Lazyman!

You’re correct. I didn’t mention what type of turning I’ll be doing, because quite honestly, I’m not completely sure. I know I won’t be doing any large bowls, as the max swing on my mini is 10”. I’m not even sure the lathe is powerful enough for a bowl that big. I may do some small platters, but mostly spindles, if I had to guess.

I’m not sure if the Savannahs fit this bill, but I guess I’m looking for a solid (not best) all around set. If I want to turn a small bowl, I don’t want to be limited, but turning bowls will not be my priority.

The fact that the Savannah set comes with a bowl gouge leads me to believe I’d be able to do the occasional small bowl. Is that an accurate assumption?

-- Joe | Spartanburg, SC | "To give anything less than your best is to sacrafice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine

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#10 posted 11-23-2017 01:40 AM

+1 on Jacksdad’s suggestion to buy quality tools without handles. Great skill building exercise for a new turner.

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Lazyman

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#11 posted 11-23-2017 03:28 AM


The fact that the Savannah set comes with a bowl gouge leads me to believe I d be able to do the occasional small bowl. Is that an accurate assumption?

- SuperCubber

Peachtree calls it a 1/2” spindle gouge but the one that came with BB set looks almost identical to another bowl gouge I have of similar size so yes you can turn small bowls with it. My lathe has maximum 10” swing as well and the size of this gouge is my favorite for finishing the bottom of bowls.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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