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Forum topic by Mike Gager posted 02-21-2011 08:13 PM 2191 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Mike Gager

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02-21-2011 08:13 PM

ive made a pretty nice fence set up for my router table and for the most part it does a really good job however ive discovered something it cant handle and i wonder how you guys deal with this

the problem im having is when making a dado in a piece where the opening in the fence is blocked by the piece that you are routering. the saw dust just seems to shoot out the dado as its being cut and flies across the shop. not much chance of really catching it. is this something i just have to live with?


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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 02-21-2011 08:19 PM

I know exactly what you’re talking about. If someone has a solution, I’d love to hear it.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Hartmann

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#2 posted 02-21-2011 09:34 PM

I don’t know if it works or not and I’ve never tried.

http://www.woodcraft.com/Product/2005140/30464/Router-Table-Dust-Collection-Accessory.aspx

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Mike Gager

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#3 posted 02-21-2011 09:37 PM

someone on another site mentioned under table collection as a possible solution. ive never tried it as i get very little dust inside the cabinet. i always thought having 2 sources of collection fighting each other wouldnt work as well

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ChunkyC

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#4 posted 02-21-2011 09:42 PM

I have dust collecting built into my cabinet and fence and it doesn’t help. I stick a 5 gallon bucket on the floor at the out feed side of the table. It catches a lot of the detritus.

I have one of the Big Gulp type dust collection “horns.” I’ve got ideas of attaching it to the out feed side of the cabinet, big gulp pointing up, to help direct even more dust into the bucket. But I haven’t done it yet.

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Mike Gager

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#5 posted 02-21-2011 09:45 PM

here is something i tried awhile back. it sort of worked but really put a limit on how long a piece you could do

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JJohnston

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#6 posted 02-21-2011 09:49 PM

Steve Maskery did a video showing his idea – he just drilled a hole(s) through the table in line with the bit so the dust gets pulled down into the cabinet. I can’t see the video from here, but I’m sure this is it.

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JasonWagner

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#7 posted 02-21-2011 09:49 PM

I’ve done similar things to what Mike has shown. Set up dust collection to catch the stream of chips. I have always wondered how under the table dust collection would work, maybe with the largest opening (insert ring) in your router table? I have my router in the wing of my table saw and did have under table dust collection for a little while but it was a pain the way I had it set up.

-- some day I hope to have enough clamps to need a clamp cart!

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chrisstef

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#8 posted 02-21-2011 10:16 PM

Funny you mention this, i had a buddy of mine come over yesterday to build some fishing rod holders and as i was about to start routing the first dado he stands right at the end of the board waiting to catch it. Wouldnt ya know it, i covered him in saw dust from his belly button to his knees.

Thats my answer to the question … have a buddy catch your boards and he will take most of the dust and chips with him.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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ProbablyLost

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#9 posted 02-22-2011 09:21 AM

Hey Mike, Once you get your DC figured out you can stop by the house and fix mine up too. I am really like the way your router table has turned out even if it does make a mess while routing dados.

-- Chris

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2bigfeet

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#10 posted 02-22-2011 03:55 PM

This looks interesting and specifically mentions a dado cut…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvwlkOKhoa4&feature=player_embedded

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HorizontalMike

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#11 posted 02-22-2011 05:17 PM

I use the router fence that came with my Grizzly router extension and it catches +80% of everything. All the chips are sucked up and only the lighter dust makes it out the front of the fence. Of course it helps that the Triton router has a built-in dust shield and 1 1/4” hose hook-up (for under the table DC) and works well with the fence DC above.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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TheWoodNerd

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#12 posted 02-22-2011 05:21 PM

My router is built into my tablesaw extension and has a combination of fence & under-table collection that’s very efficient. When cutting a dado it captures 100% of the dust, I never see a speck. The trick is to remove the plate ring or to use one that way larger than the bit, if the ring is too tight on the bit it can throw dust forward in the already cut-dado. And to have a big-enough DC to generate enough airflow.

You can see the partially finished setup at http://www.thewoodnerd.com/workshop/extensionTable.html, I need to update now that it’s almost finished but you can get the idea.

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 02-22-2011 05:30 PM

Woodnerd,
Yeah, I should probably use the larger holed insert and that would minimize what dust/chip blowback I am getting. FWIW, I use the smaller holed insert in order to set the bit height and forget to change the insert later. I just love gettin’ old AND lazy both at the same time… LOL

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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Rick Dennington

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#14 posted 02-22-2011 06:47 PM

Greetings Mike,

Here’s my suggestion: Just get a cardboard box and set it on the floor at the end of the outfeed table.

As you cut the dado and push the workpiece along, the chips will “shoot out” the end and fall in the box…simple. When you’re done, empty the box…......lol.

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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HorizontalMike

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#15 posted 02-22-2011 07:08 PM

Rick,
At this point, I have rotated the router fence 90degrees counter-clockwise and route standing in front of the saw. BTW, if I don’t make ANY mess at all, the lady of the house starts thinking I haven’t been doing anything out in the shop… ;-)

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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