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Forum topic by richardchaos posted 11-15-2017 07:47 PM 655 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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richardchaos

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11-15-2017 07:47 PM

I had to drive 35 miles to Lowse the other day to buy a replacement 18 gauge brad nailer as my LOWES Brand CO_BALT gave up the ghost with little use.

Got a Bos… by the way.. I am need buying off brand again!

On my way out a kid was setting up a display or brand new LED replacement bulbs for 4 foot Fluorescent Shop lights or anything that uses those 4 foot tube of death! So I picked up one box that has 4 tubes in it for $17…. What the heck.

I have a cluster of these old shop lights over my table saw, and by now even tube are all of a different color and GESS.

Plugged in the new LEDs and the difference is stunning…

If memory serves each tube consumes less that 8 watts… So now every time I go to Lowes instead of hitting on the cute lady in the paint department I will be buying another box of LEDs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3f2g4RMfhS0

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell


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Bill White

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#1 posted 11-15-2017 07:58 PM

Bad link. Only get heavy rock.
No probs when installing the led tubes?
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Rob

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#2 posted 11-15-2017 08:53 PM

I thought if you wanted to use LED lights in place of the old T8 or T12 florescent lights, you had to have a retro fit kit or replace the whole fixture. Is there something about these bulbs that make it unnecessary to do anything except install them?

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Lee

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#3 posted 11-16-2017 12:30 AM

If you have an electronic ballast they will plug right in according to the description on Lowes web site

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Utilitech-4-Pack-32W-Equivalent-Bright-White-T8-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb/1000264747

-- Colombia Custom woodworking

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richardchaos

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#4 posted 11-16-2017 01:02 AM

I exchanged them no problems! They seem to work just fine in my old BALLAST lights

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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bndawgs

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#5 posted 11-16-2017 05:58 PM

I bought 2 packs of these when Costco had them on sale for $40. Installed them in the garage using the two single light sockets and these adapters.

https://www.costco.com/Feit-Electric-4%E2%80%99-Linkable-LED-Shop-Light-with-Pull-Chain%2c-2-pack.product.100284402.html

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Socket-with-Outlets-White-R52-01403-00W/100184555

I actually only needed 3 due to how bright they are.

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richardchaos

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#6 posted 11-16-2017 06:08 PM



I bought 2 packs of these when Costco had them on sale for $40. Installed them in the garage using the two single light sockets and these adapters.

https://www.costco.com/Feit-Electric-4%E2%80%99-Linkable-LED-Shop-Light-with-Pull-Chain%2c-2-pack.product.100284402.html

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Commercial-Electric-Socket-with-Outlets-White-R52-01403-00W/100184555

I actually only needed 3 due to how bright they are.

- bndawgs

They are brighter, have a cleaner color and use a fraction of the power and they are going to out live most of us.

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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Tennessee

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#7 posted 11-16-2017 06:35 PM

I don’t know…these play to a measly 2.5 stars on the Lowes website – mainly due to people not able to get them to work in their old fluorescent fixtures.
So rather than wondering if I have the proper electronic ballast in my remaining fluorescent fixtures, as mine fail I have been replacing the whole fixture with these:
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lights-of-America-4-LED-Shoplight/46808020

$38 a pop, comes with a five year warranty, and they put out 4,500 lumens, which is a WHOLE lot of light in the Daylight spectrum.

Never run hot, and bright as they can be. No worries about ballast, on the shelf at Wally world. 4.5 stars on 29 reviews on their website.

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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#8 posted 11-16-2017 07:30 PM

I have converted most of my house lights to LEDs and I’m in the process of converting the 8’ fluorescent lights in my shop right now. Last year I converted my camper to LEDs too. I’m a fan!

I found LED replacements tubes that bypass the ballast (with a little basic rewiring involved) through Amazon, and they operate at 100 to 277 volts. . By eliminating the need for the ballast I don’t have to worry about it eventually burning out….which is sometimes a leaky mess. The ballast also puts out an RF noise (radio frequency) that interferes with my AM radio and the LEDs do not do this.

When looking for these replacements you should be aware of several things. First the end connectors, bi-pin or single. Next the lumen rating (more important than the watts but they are closely related) and finally the Kelvin or color range. I sure don’t want the yellow color(3000) in my shop so I stuck with the 4000 Kelvin range. The 5000 range would be OK but I think 6000 would be too harsh. Additionally some suppliers also provide new tombstone fixtures with their tubes. Finally I chose tubes that were frosted instead of clear because I did not want to see all those little square LED elements glistening down on me (my light fixtures have no cover or diffusers over them).
These ballast bypass tubes are also available in 2’, 3’, and 4’ with various diameters available.
Be sure to shop around the internet because the price varies a lot. I got four 8’ tubes for about $110. A new ballast and fluorescent tubes can cost more.

-- Les B, Oregon

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Dark_Lightning

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#9 posted 11-18-2017 01:03 AM

You’re doing pretty good for a dead man, hitting on the women! :D I am replacing the fluorescent fixtures completely as bulbs go bad. I used to buy bulbs in the 10 pack. There were 15 sockets for the tubes, and I was buying a box every two years. So much for the alleged 7 year life.

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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richardchaos

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#10 posted 11-18-2017 10:31 AM



You re doing pretty good for a dead man, hitting on the women! :D I am replacing the fluorescent fixtures completely as bulbs go bad. I used to buy bulbs in the 10 pack. There were 15 sockets for the tubes, and I was buying a box every two years. So much for the alleged 7 year life.

- Dark_Lightning

Well thank you DARK! I have to say I fell pretty good for being dead as well..No stink yet. No parts falling off…... YET. I am going to see how far I get come TAX TIME explaining to the IRS and the state and the city and the county you cant tax a DEAD man. Wish me luck!

ALSO my 4 foot replaced fluorescent tubes are piling up outside. Anyone want them!

YOU KNOW since you can do anything with a row of LED lights, and they use really no power and they have no heat. Why couldn’t you just run rows of these elements back and forth on your ceiling Like a line of Masking tape until the entire coiling is covered????

I found out this. LEDS are replacing any and all lights in Photography/Video lighting. IN fact they now have SOFT-LIGHTS boxes that use LEDs where not only can you dim the lights BUT you can also change the TEMPETURE to suit your needs. SO you can twist the dial for Warm inside fireplace light to chrome blue mid day sun lighting.

DAMN where were these 20 years ago.

GAWD how would you like to be a salesman for Incandescent, and Halogen lights?

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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Dark_Lightning

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#11 posted 11-18-2017 04:07 PM

Yeah, that would be like the old Maytag repairman commercials, selling incandescent bulbs. As for the strips of LEDs, indeed, I replaced an 8 foot fluorescent fixture with a 16 foot strip that I ran up and back, on the top of a set of book cases that are up against the west wall of the living room. Still indirect light, and I won’t have to change any more tubes out. I’ll be doing the same in the kitchen, when those fluorescent bulbs die. The chandelier in the dining room has all LED “bulbs”, as well.

I have considered running LED strips along the ridge beam in the living room. It’s 22 feet long, so I’d need a lot of them. It’s about 15 feet up from the floor, so I’d have to rent a scaffold again like I did when I put in the ceiling fan.

-- Random Orbital Nailer

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#12 posted 11-18-2017 06:14 PM

First time problem with 8’ LED tubes. RF noise (radio frequency) I had heard this was sometimes a problem but had not experienced it with other LED lights I have installed. The tubes came from Hyperikon.
I received my tubes two days ago and installed the first set. They bypass the ballast and run directly on 120v. I had my shop radio going and when I turned on the power to the tubes they lit up great but I got terrible static on my radio (FM frequency). I tried changing the tubes around end for end and it did not help. When I removed one tube from the two tube fixture the static was quieter. I also switced to other tubes with no improvement so it wasn’t just the one tube causing the problem. I called the sellers help line and their only advice was to install RF interference filters. They said they would reimburse me for the cost and that they were available on Amazon. I agreed to try and I’m now waiting for the Ferrite type filters that clamp over the wires to come. Twenty of them was about $10. If that doesn’t work I have another location for the lights and I will try another brand.
I may have to try the flexible LED strip lights that I have used in other locations with no problem but they do need a power supply.

-- Les B, Oregon

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