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Brit

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02-19-2011 12:18 PM

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Man I miss the Coffee Lounge forum. I’m posting this thread here as I think these are basic internet skills that every woodworker should possess.

A few years ago, I made the decision to stop buying woodworking magazines, such as Popular Woodworking, Fine Woodworking and Furniture and Cabinetmaking. Why? Because in my opinion, there were only 2 or 3 articles in each issue that I was really interested in and I was running out of space to store them.

In my opinion hardcopy magazines are outdated. I use a FREE Feed reader (FeedDemon) and whenever I come across a woodworking blog that I’m interested in, I subscribe to it (FREE) by clicking on the RSS feed. All I have to do is open FeedDemon and I can immediately see which of the 43 woodworking blogs that I subscribe to has new articles as they show up in bold text. There is always something new to read every day and many of the articles are as good as anything found in woodworking magazines.

I also own an iPod and subscribe to about 20 video and audio woodworking podcasts through iTunes (again FREE).

This gives me more woodworking information than I can consume and it all comes to me (absolutely FREE). There are so many interesting woodworking blogs and posdcasts out there, that I can even afford to be ‘picky’! I’m also lucky enough to have Apple TV which means that when I am at home, I can view any of the video podcasts on my TV by linking to it wirelessly from my laptop.

When I travel, either by train, car or plane, I know I will always have something to watch, listen to or read in order to get my woodworking fix and I don’t have to carry a magazine around with me.

I’d be interested to hear how many of my fellow jocks have taken a similar approach to me, whether you think woodworking magazines have had their day and whether or not you think it matters when there is so much free woodworking information for us to consume on the web.

What say you?

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.


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hObOmOnk

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#1 posted 02-19-2011 05:30 PM

Electronic publishing is the wave of the present, not the future. Ink and paper publishing will remain, at least for a while, as ePubs take a more prominent position. Most of the woodworking publishers have gone to a two-headed approach to selling their content. Electronic versions echo the paper pubs and paper sometimes echo the electronic versions. However, good content comes first. Too many amateur Internet sources contain misinformation and unreliable content. Caveat emptor!

Before the Internet: “Never look a gift horse in the mouth.”
After the Internet: ”ALWAYS look a gift horse in the mouth.”

We, both consumers and publishers, are feeling our way. It’s going to be interesting. I like the challenge that comes with new opportunities.

-- 温故知新

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#2 posted 02-19-2011 05:40 PM

Care to list some of your favorite blogs, podcasts, and videos? With so many out there it would be great to have a list of some of the “must haves”

-- http://www.craftcollective.wordpress.com

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#3 posted 02-19-2011 06:17 PM

Hi,
I read and read on the web, watch videos on youtube, I buy books lots of them, and I had a subscription on Popular woodworking magazine for a year now.
The books is a weakness, I simply love books, and read loads of information this way along with Dostojevski, Victor Hugo and Bjarne Reuter, and I do have a copy of L’Art de menuisier by Mr. Roubo, but ‘only’ digital… (after all I spend one out of for weeks in Paris).
A magazine for me is a way to relax, to get things served on a silver plate, to become inspred without looking for it, like a kind of break, but where I stay in the subject. For me Popular woodworking don’t do that, too much words and too littel woodworking for my taste, so I have decided to stop my subscription due to this feeling of getting bored, and also that I don’t agree with their way of doing buisnes (look at my blog).
I will look into your program suggestion, it sounds like something for me also. I’m quite digital, even I have a passion for vintage and books, and it sounds wonderful to read other than Roubo on the aroplane to Paris.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#4 posted 02-19-2011 06:20 PM

I started buying a few mags on DVD and that’s cut down on the storage issue but I’ll check out your link. Thanks for posting!

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#5 posted 02-19-2011 07:48 PM

My first question is: what was the “Coffee Lounger Forum”? What happened to it ? And, why? I’ve seen many mentions of it during my awakening to LJ. ( I joined 1292 days ago ). If everybody liked it why did it go away? Why don’t LJ bring it back?

I only get 1 magazine “WOODSHOP NEWS” a small publication, no plans, noy much “hot to tips” just lots of information in a small package. Wood prices, how to run a business, finishing ideas, new tools & machinery etc. It’s about what’s happing now in commercial woodworking. I run through it cover to cover in about 1 to 1-1/2 hours.

I use my computer a lot. I have friends who don’t own a computer and don’t want one. They say their too old to learn new tricks. It ante’ no big trick. I’m 70 this year and I figured it out. Come on you old geezers get with the program. If I can figure out how to run this thing anybody can. If you run into a problem do what I do get my grandson or granddaughter to help you out. This is were the information is.

I belong to 2 woodworking clubs in my area. I’m finding like the popular woodworking magazines the presentations are starting to repeat themselves. I’m dropping both clubs for a year or two to take a break. That’s were LJ comes in. I’m finding more information, seeing new ideas and just plane having fun at LJ.
Heck! Let’s start another Sawstop discussion. LMAO

Really thanks Jocks ! You’re great!

Pop

-- One who works with his hands is a laborer, his hands & head A craftsman, his hands, head & heart a artist

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Brit

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#6 posted 02-19-2011 11:19 PM

Well I posted this thread this morning UK time and was all set for nice discussion with my fellow jocks. However, the wife dragged me round the shops with dinner afterwards. What can you do eh?

@hobomonk – I agree with you that printed magazines and books will remain and I wouldn’t want it any other way, but I have to disagree with you when you say that electronic publishing is not the future. 1000s of new blogs (not all woodworking related) start up every single day. The internet offers a means of communicating with other like-minded individuals the world over and it is an extremely powerful thing. Social networking types refer to it as ‘the wisdom of crowds’. Who would have thought 20 years ago that you could post a question or start a discussion on the web and chew the cud with people all over the world. Long may it continue.
@Dabcan – I’d love to share what blogs and podcasts I subscribe to. I’ll put together a list of the names and URLs and post it itomorrow n this thread.
@Mads – Don’t get me wrong. I buy quite a few instructional books and DVDs and even some luscious coffee table type books where you just drool over the pictures, but I did get fed up with the magazines. The just seemed to me to be quite expensive and repetitive. I mean how many articles do you need to read about ‘how to cut dovetails by hand’. If I visit a blog and the subject being discussed isn’t something I’m interested in, I just move to the next one and I haven’t wasted my money. By the way, I read your blog and I think you were absolutely right to walk away from it. $75 is an insult when you consider all the work that goes into what you create.
@RetiredCoastie – Buying the mags on DVD is not a bad idea. I hadn’t thought of that one. Also, I highly recommend subscribing to Fine Woodworkings online site. For a small fee, you get access to all of the magazine articles online and you can download the ones you’re interested in in PDF format. There is also some great video content. Well worth the money.
@Pop – The Coffee Lounge was a forum on LJs where woodworkers could discuss anything off topic and not really woodworking related. It was a great place for woodworkers to show that they had an opinion about topics other than woodworking. There were some great discussions there, but it was shut down for various reasons and I don’t know enough about the reasons to state them here. It’s a shame really, as the social networking side of LJs has suffered a bit in my opinion.

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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mafe

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#7 posted 02-19-2011 11:37 PM

Thank you Andy,
I also miss the coffee room, but it seemed people had a difficult time to speak in a nice tone there… I never see this my self, but it should have been bad. I hoped also it would re open, but for now it seems dead.
Best thoughts, it do sound wonderful a dinner with the wife,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Brit

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#8 posted 02-20-2011 02:00 AM

BLOGS & PODCASTS that I read/watch/listen to
As promised, here is a list of the blogs that I currently subscribe to in FeedDemon. Some are updated more often than others, but there is usually something good to read every day. When you find a blog that you like reading, you should take a look at the ‘Blogroll’ widget on that blog’s website. There you will find a list of other blogs that the author recommends. You might find something else to take your fancy and in that way you can build up a list of blogs that match your own interests.

A Furnituremaker’s Notebood by Darrell Peart
Feed address: http://darrellpeart.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Adventures in Woodworking
Feed address: http://adventuresinwoodworking.com/feed/

Arts & Mysteries Blog
Feed address: http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/blog3/SyndicationService.asmx/GetRss

Benchcrafted
Feed address: http://benchcrafted.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Blended Woodworking
Feed address: http://www.blendedwoodworking.com/?feed=rss2

Bob Easton
Feed address: http://www.bob-easton.com/blog/?feed=rss2

Brese Plane
Feed address: http://breseplane.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Close Grain
Feed address: http://www.closegrain.com/feeds/posts/default

CreatingSadust.com
Feed address: http://feeds.feedburner.com/creatingsawdust/vWXG

Dan’s Shop
Feed address: http://dans-woodshop.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Design Matters
Feed address: http://georgewalkerdesign.wordpress.com/feed/

Eccentric Toolworks
Feed address: http://eccentrictoolworks.com/feed/

Evenfall Woodworks
Feed address: http://www.evenfallstudios.com/woodworks/feed/

First Light Woodworking
Feed address: http://firstlightwoodworking.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Galoototron
Feed address: http://www.galoototron.com/feed/

Heartwood
Feed address: http://www.rpwoodwork.com/blog/feed/atom/

Joel’s Blog at Tools for Working Wood
Feed address: http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/Merchant/merch_rss_start.mvc

John’s Blog (Bridge City Tools)
Feed address: http://www.bridgecitytools.com/blog/feed/

Logan Cabinet Shoppe – blog (My personal favourite)
Feed address: http://logancabinetshoppe.weebly.com/1/feed

Lost Art Press Blog
Feed address: http://blog.lostartpress.com/SyndicationService.asmx/GetRss

Lumberjocks.com RSS Feed – All posts (Includes everything posted on LJs including projects, forums, blogs etc. If you don’t want to receive everything, then you can subscribe to just the projects RSS feed for example.)
Feed address: http://feeds2.feedburner.com/lumberjocks-all

Matt’s Basement Workshop
Feed address: http://mattsbasementworkshop.com/feed/

Musings from the Workbench
Feed address: http://cornishworkshop.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Peter Follansbee, joiner’s notes
Feed address: http://pfollansbee.wordpress.com/feed/

Philsville
Feed address: http://philsville.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Popular Woodworking
Feed address: http://blogs.popularwoodworking.com/editorsblog/SyndicationService.asmx/GetRss

The Bois Shop (another of my favourites)
Feed address: http://theboisshop.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Cottage Workshop
Feed address: http://richardmagbanua.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Folding rule
Feed address: http://foldingrule.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Incidental Woodworker
Feed address: http://incidentalwoodworker.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Part-Time Woodworker
Feed address: http://theparttimewoodworker.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Refined Edge
Feed address: http://refinededge.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Sharpening Blog
Feed address: http://hocktools.wordpress.com/feed/

The Unplugged Woodshop
Feed address: http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheUnpluggedWoodshop

The Village Carpenter
Feed address: http://villagecarpenter.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

The Woodhaven
Feed address: http://thewoodhaven.co.uk/phpBB3/blog.php/feed/

The Wood Whisperer
Feed address: http://thewoodwhisperer.com/feed/

Toolemera Blog
Feed address: http://feeds.feedburner.com/ToolmeraBlog

Toolmaking Art
Feed address: http://toolmakingart.com/feed/

Wenzloff & Sons
Feed address: http://wenzloffandsons.com/wordpress/feed/

WoodTreks
Feed address: http://feeds.woodtreks.com/woodtreks

Woodwork Joints
Feed address: http://woodworkjoints.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Woodworking Magazine
Feed address: http://feeds.feedburner.com/woodworkingmagazine

Here is a list of the audio and video podcasts that I subscribe to in iTunes and watch/listen to either on my iPod, on my PC or on my TV using Apple TV.

Fine Woodworking.com
Podcast URL: http://finewoodworking.blip.tv/rss/itunes/

Handtools & Techniques
Podcast URL: http://handtoolstechniques.blip.tv/rss/itunes/

The iWoodwork Podcast
Podcast URL: http://iwoodwork.libsyn.com/rss

Matt’s Basement Workshop
Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/MattsBasementWorkshop

Spoken Wood Podcast (from Matt Vanderlist)
Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/SpokenWoodPodcast

Modern Woodshop
Podcast URL: http://modernwoodshop.blip.tv/rss/itunes

Popular Woodworking
Podcast URL: http://popwood-videos.blip.tv/rss/itunes/

The Renaissance Woodworker
Podcast URL: http://renaissanceww.blip.tv/rss/itunes

Roughcut Show – Woodworking
Podcast URL: http://www.bobvila.com/RoughCutShow/rss.xml

The Sawdust Chronicles
Podcast URL: http://sawdustchronicles.blip.tv/rss/itunes/

Splintered Board Podcast
Podcast URL: http://splinteredboard.com/podcasts-only/rss2.aspx

Tool Talk (audio podcast not specifically about woodworking, but these two guys crack me up as they talk about tools in their unique way)
Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/ToolTalk

The Way of the Galoot
Podcast URL: http://thewayofthegaloot.blip.tv/rss/itunes/

The Wood Whisperer – Wood Talk Online Radio feed
Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/woodtalkonline

Woodworker’s Resource
Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/woodworkersresourcevideo

Woodworking Online Podcast
Podcast URL: http://www.woodworkingonline.com/category/podcast/feed

Woodworking with The Wood Whisperer – iPod
Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheWoodWhisperer

That should be enough to get you going. ENJOY!

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#9 posted 02-20-2011 02:03 AM

My ohhh.
Merci, that is one wonderful list of links.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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Brit

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#10 posted 02-20-2011 02:21 AM

You’re more than welcome Mads. You hinted that you were thinking of starting a web site yourself on your blog post. I would definitely be a regular visitor. You have a unique way of writing and I know you won’t take this the wrong way Mads, but even though you don’t always spell English words correctly, or perhaps use the right English grammar, it doesn’t matter. You draw the reader in and you always have something interesting to say that you don’t see anywhere else and you always provide some wonderful step by step photographs. You leave the reader glad that they read your post. I say go for it Mads. You never know, you might make more than $75 out of the advertising revenue on your site :-)

-- Andy -- Old Chinese proverb say: If you think something can't be done, don't interrupt man who is doing it.

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#11 posted 02-20-2011 03:23 AM

Andy I smile, thank you so for the words, that is very kind of you, and sure warms my heart.
Yes I am aware that my English are quite Danglish, and when posting I try to use the spelling control, but in reply I go unplugged. lol.
I have a website now, but not with woodworking, and in Danish. You have to know woodworking to me is quite new, app. a year and a half or so, before that I had only a normal toolbox, some Festool tools and one hand plane, all was used for house restore, but the interest have been there for a long time. All I have done here on LJ is to share my travel, and this might be why it becomes interesting, to me it’s all so eye opening and interesting that I wish my health was better, and there were more hours a day.
For my website idea, it is some ideas to help the less fortunate and to become better in recycle, so not a LJ site. But this will be a future thing nothing is ready now, I talk with different people about this now since I don’t have the energy alone to lift a web site.
But I’m working on a personal blog site now, where I can go unplugged on woodworking, tools, poetry and whatever moves in my head and I need and want to share with others… But it will not change my commitment to LJ, and me sharing my projects in a democratic way here with you all, perhaps my tutorials and blogs will end up at my own site in time, but then I will link from the posts.
I have no intention of going commercial, but yes I could find sponsors fast that would pay 75 dollar quite fast… lol.
Best thoughts and thank you again,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#12 posted 02-20-2011 04:01 AM

You rule that will keep me busy for a….... ever Thanks Brit

-- life an woodworking is one big experiment

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#13 posted 02-20-2011 06:37 AM

great list thx for the heads up

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#14 posted 02-20-2011 07:13 AM

wow, now that certainly is some list to go thru! :-)

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#15 posted 02-20-2011 07:31 AM

Andy:

Thanks for that incredible list of Links!!

I AGREE Wholeheartedly that when they shut down the Coffee Lounge this site LOST an element that was very Worthwhile. I’ve chatted with others about it. We all sort of feel that something Died. SPIRIT might be close to what I’m trying to say. Yes! The Social Networking was a Great Thing on here and it is a shame that it’s now gone. Maybe it has something to do with the New Owners. Maybe not.

Rick

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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