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Forum topic by nate22 posted 02-16-2011 08:15 PM 1337 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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02-16-2011 08:15 PM

I am making a bed for a customer and they want it made out of maple and stained in a walnut color. My question is will the walnut stain change the look of the maple and will the maple change the color of the walnut stain. I am using special walnut it is a minwax wood stain. I just wondered if it will change the color before I start staining it.

-- Gracie's wooden signs. Middlebury, In.


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#1 posted 02-16-2011 10:58 PM

Nate,

It depends on whether you use heartwood (brownish) or early wood (white). Of course the stain will change it, but how much is the question. Try on scrap from the wood you’re using FIRST. The amount of sanding you do will affect how much effect the stain has. The finer you sand, the less the maple will absorb. Use a test board, sand sections to higher and higher grits, label each section, stain, and let the customer decide; then get their acceptance IN WRITING. Then you’re covered.

By the way, Middlebury is a cool town. I ate at the Essenhaus a couple times. Elkhart county is one of the prettiest in northern Indiana.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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#2 posted 02-16-2011 11:55 PM

It’s supposed to change the look of the maple, that’s why you’re putting the stain on it to begin with :)
I also believe you will not be able to get it as dark as the customer wants (if they think it’s going to look like black walnut) without spraying it on and applying a couple of coats. Maple just won’t stain that dark, in my experience.
Fussy has a great point in doing test pieces and then having the customer sign off on it, even have them sign the test piece itself! I’ve been burned before not doing this. BTW fussy, it’s sapwood, the early wood is part of the growth ring. Every year a maple tree grows and make a growth ring there is early wood (early season growth) and late wood (late season growth).

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#3 posted 02-17-2011 09:27 AM

Childress,

You’re absolitely root; my bad. I couldn’t think sapwood for two reasons; 1, I’m old enough to use that as an excuse and have it work, and 2, my 4 year old Grandson was hollerin’ to go to the shop! I love his enthusiasm. He’s learning measuring, marking, planing, wood types, fractions (he gets the concept), and SAFETY AND RESPECT FOR TOOLS AND PROCEDURES. Yes. he’s only 4, but he loves to go to the shop. Tomorrow,we apply a finish to a present for his AUNT. eXCITEMENT!

sORRY FOR THE OFF-TOPIC COMMENTS. iS MY PRIDE SHOWING?

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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#4 posted 02-18-2011 04:33 PM

Thanks for the comments. I will try it on a scrap piece of maple and see what it looks like. And I am using brown maple by the way.

and fussy the Essenhaus is a good place to eat. I think more tourist eat there than people that live around middlebury. And if your ever up this way again look me up and maybe we could meet.

-- Gracie's wooden signs. Middlebury, In.

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#5 posted 02-18-2011 05:00 PM

If you can’t get it dark enough you may have to try some dye. Sometimes I use general finishes water born dye mixed with their top coat. The maindraw back is repairing the finish, but it’s not a table top. I’ve learned from experience that it is best to choose the wood that best matches the color you want even if it costs a little more, but that might be up to the person paying for the bed. What ever you do get a good sized test piece and show the costomer what it looks like.
If you do make it dark it wont look like maple any more and you will get blotching. I have a maple table that I dyed to match our dark cherry cabinets. We like it but I think I would have done it different if I had a do over.

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#6 posted 02-18-2011 05:24 PM

IHere is the table… (I hope).

-- Although the voices aren't real they have some pretty good ideas.

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