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02-16-2011 05:48 AM

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I did a corner shelf with a radius not squared off. Took solid wood and bent it to make molding. The complete project was made from 30 bd ft of solid oak. No plywood. This thing was good. His wife loved it but he says he won’t have me do anything else cause I’m too expensive. I charged 280 ish for it. 130 ish was material, only charged 15 hours at 10 bucks an hour and I’m over priced come on. Am I blind or is it everyone wants something for nothing.

-- Who can I block now???????????????????????


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John

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#1 posted 02-16-2011 06:10 AM

A pic would help. Most people where I live would rather spend that at Ikea. NO Appreciation.

-- John

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Don

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#2 posted 02-16-2011 06:12 AM

I don’t thnk it’s because they want something for nothing. It’s unfortunate for us woodworkers but most people just don’t understand the difference between something custom made and something similar from Wallmart for a fraction of the cost. There are people that do and you just need to find them.

-- Don - I wood work if I could. Redmond WA.

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#3 posted 02-16-2011 06:14 AM

You are not over priced.

-- Superdav "No matter where you go - there you are." http://chiselandforge.com

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#4 posted 02-16-2011 06:17 AM

Sorry I don’t post PIcs’ Gladly send you a pic if you wish. But won’t display it for all to see.

I think Don and superdav hit it. Its just frustrating.

Yea I know 10 dollars is cheap. Just starting to sell my work. Figure build a rep as a quality builder then start sticking the true price to them.

I also no the bad that can come from that too.

-- Who can I block now???????????????????????

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Rick Dennington

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#5 posted 02-16-2011 06:49 AM

It’s kind of like Don said…..you’ve got to find the right people who are willing to spend the money on good quality furniture and quality pieces that are custom made…. Example: I did an entertainment center for this couple that I do work for some, and it was solid oak, and heavy as a bear to move…it took me about 3 weeks to build it, and it was $1,200, and these folks never batted an eye about the price…..when they came to pick it up, they were tickled to death (the woman especially). These are the knid of customers eveybody would like to have, but not always possible… Oh…and I got another small job out of it, too….happy days….

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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lilredweldingrod

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#6 posted 02-16-2011 07:29 AM

Kinda like my grand father always said, “There are two ways to buy oats; when they come out of the mill, (custom) and when they come out of the mule. (IKEA)”

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KnickKnack

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#7 posted 02-16-2011 11:38 AM

No matter what you charge, some people will always think it’s overpriced.

When we used to run a (software) business there were always some people, institutions etc that would say something along the lines of “sorry, we can’t afford that much, how about less?”. Simple answer is that if you can’t afford it you can’t buy it – that’s how the world works – otherwise we’d all be driving Ferraris to our private islands to watch our 600” plasma TVs (well, not all of us but you get the drift).

-- "Do not speak – unless it improves on silence." --- "Following the rules and protecting the regulations is binding oneself without rope."

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tyskkvinna

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#8 posted 02-16-2011 03:46 PM

Did they know the price beforehand? I’ve learned that makes a big difference, too. Also, I generally break down a quote for somebody. Let them know how much is going into the lumber (I would include a small markup on the lumber, but to each his own) and then how much is the labour.

A lot of people genuinely have no idea how much real lumber costs.

-- Lis - Michigan - http://www.missmooseart.com - https://www.etsy.com/people/lisbokt

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#9 posted 02-16-2011 04:17 PM

That is exactly the reason I don’t bother doing projects for people. Just isn’t worth it. people don’t appreciate the skills involved,the time it took to learn these skills,how much tools cost,how much material costs. As others have pointed out, give them a price upfront if they don’t like it, IKEA is just out the street(maybe)

-- Life is good.

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#10 posted 02-16-2011 04:17 PM

Wow, $10 an hour is too much? They couldn’t touch me, then.

I charge $15/hr in my shop and $30/hour at the job site.
My job site price is about to go up to $32.50/hr in March, but I am keeping my in shop price the same.
I have lost a couple of jobs with this pricing, but, I get a lot more than i lose. I have overhead, as do you, to pay, so, I don’t worry about what they think. It is what I need to keep going, so it is what i charge.

-- http://www.ahomespecialist.net, Making design and application one. †

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wiswood2

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#11 posted 02-16-2011 04:35 PM

ya,but they only charge a dollar a day in china ,Frends like that you Dont Need.Chuck

-- Chuck, wiswood2 www.wisconsinwoodchuck.com

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Rick Dennington

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#12 posted 02-16-2011 04:53 PM

One thing I have figured out is that you NEVER get your money on labor….When I do a job for someone, I figure I am automatically going to lose on the labor…..even at $10—15 an hour is not enough to cover your time spent doing a job, especially if it’s a big job…..In my case, being retired, I don’t have to rely on what I make to serve as my income….I try to work with the customer on price, and if all is agreed on, then I go ahead once eveything (details, price, etc.) is up front….if not, then I don’t worry about it. I don’t advertize at all….I get my work through my wife’s beauty shop, so they come to me….and I do it because I like it, and it keeps me out of trouble and off the streets…..

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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HerbC

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#13 posted 02-16-2011 05:51 PM

Resurrected,

Don’t post pictures? And you want to “build a rep as a quality builder then start sticking the true price to them” ??? Sounds like a great business plan to me.

Remember, the customer isn’t always right but he’s (or she’s) the one with the checkbook… So in the long run you have to please them.

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!" http://lumberjocks.com/HerbC/blog/17090

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Bertha

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#14 posted 02-16-2011 06:12 PM

My prices are horrific. Embarrassing even. I quote a true price up front and it usually drives them away. LOL with HerbC above, as my business plan is even worse!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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surfin2

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#15 posted 02-16-2011 06:38 PM

I can’t believe people don’t known or care about the difference between real furniture & the crap sold at Walmarts & Target…

I ran into a situation where a woman wanted to get rid of her coffee & end tables… (were her grand mothers)
She said she was sick of them, she wanted something new….

I ask’d her what color do you want or like, I’ll strip them & refinish them any color you want. You just can’t get or find this quality any where’s today.

I want something new & up to date. She sold the set for $50.00 If I knew that I would have bought it.

Her replacement look’d ok but it was pure junk but she was tickled pink with her decision…

-- Rick

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