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Forum topic by richardchaos posted 11-04-2017 02:38 PM 664 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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richardchaos

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11-04-2017 02:38 PM

I heard that SEARS is closing a ton of stores once again. I am sorry to see them bow and drop the curtain soon.

While I am not a fan of them much in the last couple of decades. In my younger years I got my feet wet in this line of work with almost everything Craftsmen.

My first Table saw was a Craftsman as was my first bandsaw, drill press and joiner… MANY may ask me Where are those tools today. I was thinking the same thing.

I think 3 three divorces answers that question.

BUT today I have replaced all of that with what I want now and no one is going to take them this time.

I am just saddened that almost 100% of what I have today was made by a Chinese political prisoner….

But anyways sorry to see sears plight.

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell


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Rich

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#1 posted 11-04-2017 03:32 PM

The Sears catalog was an anxiously awaited item for me each year, and the Christmas catalog always wound up with tons of dog-eared pages and circled items for Santa to consider bringing me. It was also popular with folks who had outhouses.

Playing off their old slogan, my dad used to say, Sears has everything, but they’re out of it.

-- No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.

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#2 posted 11-04-2017 03:38 PM

They need to just shut it down completely. There is no reviving that store. They failed to adapt and were left behind by better companies.

Mail order no go, brick and mortar no go, unique offerings no go, everything they had going for them at one time no longer exists. They are stuck trying to peddle merchandise that no one wants and have fallen about as low as retailer can in regards to brand/name. Other companies harm their name/reputation by having products in Sears at this point.

They are interesting as case study.

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#3 posted 11-04-2017 03:45 PM

There was a time when if I needed a tool I would checks the Craftsman tool catalog, and then drive to Sears to buy it. That was over 45 years ago. Now I skip Sears for most anything, though if I needed mechanics hand tools I would still probably try to buy Craftsman. But the recent announcement included a lot of K mart stores as well. Another name I quit shopping, but that was maybe in the last 30 years or so. I hate to see them die off, but maybe it’s the best thing.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#4 posted 11-04-2017 04:10 PM

I have always used their mechanics tools and tool chests. I did all of the maintenance in our molding plant and we had more than 160,000 sq. ft. plant with 5 Weinig molders and 2 finger jointers along with all of the other equipment that kept the molding moving out of the machinery. So those Craftsman mechanics tools took a big beating. They didn’t cost much and if they broke Sears would normally replace them. Mostly they just got lost here and their and we kept all the sets restocked. So I hope that somebody will buy the mechanics tool division and keep those wrenches, sockets, and ratchets coming off the line. There are a few brands that are better tools but; for what you are getting with your money you just can’t beat craftsman mechanics tools.

helluvawreck aka Charles
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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#5 posted 11-04-2017 04:14 PM

The best thing about K-Mart was the Deli/Snack Bar…..when they dropped that, I dropped K-Mart.

Dad would get everything from Sears, rarely from Wards, and Western Auto only IF he needed a part right now.

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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richardchaos

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#6 posted 11-04-2017 04:33 PM

I will say this they backed OR USE TO BACK up their tools. When I was in my 20s now I am 55 OPPS and dead according to the State of Illinois, SEARS said if a tool ever breaks bring it in and we will give you a new one no questions asked.

SO While I was in there looking for bandsaw blades, a guy came up to the salesman helping me. This guy had an old 25 foot craftsman tape measure.. If I had to guess it was made around the time of the Revolutionary war. ANYWAYS it was broken off about the 6 inch mark.

Salesman took it from him, walked over to the tape measures took brand new one off the rack handed to him and he left to go back to the job sight. NO QUESTIONS ASKED! no paperwork! no POLYGRAPH! or nothing.

You will never see that these days

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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#7 posted 11-04-2017 04:42 PM

Sears home improvements was terrible, my parents got a door installed by sears, it took them 4 tries to get it mostly right then a few years later the door was rusted and the hammerite finish flaked off. This was an expensive security door, when my mother called sears they suggested that she paint it with Rustoleum.

They also bent the shaft on a lawn mower of mine during routine service and it never did run right after that.

They got where they were by being one of only a few choices, when better options opened up the shriveled up.

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richardchaos

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#8 posted 11-04-2017 04:58 PM

Well there are a lot of reasons SEARS is on their way out. Hiring retards is only one of them. The BUCK for ANY BUSINESS has to stop at the top. If SEARS is a PUBLIC business and i have no idea the stock holders should of gotten rid of ole rotten wood (NON OUN INTENDED) a looooong time ago.

And I bet you 10 board foot of Brazilian Rosewood, an Competent YOUNG managerial crew could turn the place around!


Sears home improvements was terrible, my parents got a door installed by sears, it took them 4 tries to get it mostly right then a few years later the door was rusted and the hammerite finish flaked off. This was an expensive security door, when my mother called sears they suggested that she paint it with Rustoleum.

They also bent the shaft on a lawn mower of mine during routine service and it never did run right after that.

They got where they were by being one of only a few choices, when better options opened up the shriveled up.

- patcollins

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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#9 posted 11-04-2017 04:58 PM

The craftsman tools quality declined big time but the prices stayed high

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richardchaos

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#10 posted 11-04-2017 05:31 PM

I agree!

All fault of NAFTA and TAFTA! You all have been sold out!


The craftsman tools quality declined big time but the prices stayed high

- corelz125

-- “In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell

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#11 posted 11-04-2017 06:00 PM



So I hope that somebody will buy the mechanics tool division and keep those wrenches, sockets, and ratchets coming off the line. There are a few brands that are better tools but; for what you are getting with your money you just can t beat craftsman mechanics tools.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

- helluvawreck


I agree with what you said about the value of the tools, but they have already sold the Craftsman stuff to Stanley/B&D. I’m fairly certain they (Stanley) are already working on a plan to thoroughly screw up the brand. Sears maintains the rights to Craftsman for 5 years, then it’s anybody’s guess what will happen.

-- Our village hasn't lost it's idiot, he was elected to congress.

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#12 posted 11-04-2017 07:23 PM

Boy, I don’t think even BD/Stanley could screw up their Craftsman mechanics hand tools any worse!

I just bought a set for the basement to keep from doing the stairs. These china tools are far inferior to the Craftsman USA tools of 10 years ago. What garbage! IMO, the only reason Sears could sell them is they were a catalog/internet item I didn’t examine first.

I do feel bad for all the people losing their jobs, these people are victims of corporate stupidity.

Mark

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helluvawreck

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#13 posted 11-04-2017 09:45 PM

It’s been 6 years since we retired from the plant and I hadn’t realized that the Craftsman’s tools had gotten so screwed up. It seems like the retail trade is going down hill fast. All of those brick and morter buildings and all of the retail employees just can’t compete with Amazon and the rest of the internet. I don’t know whats going to happen to all of those shopping centers. The world is changing fast.

helluvawreck aka Charles
http://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#14 posted 11-04-2017 11:11 PM

The Colorado Forge had a very far sighted CEO. When the craftsmen line was starting to waver in Sears they started to retool. So they can rebrand some of their tool line and sell them as a private vendor. There still might be layoffs in the Colorado springs plant. They are in the process of rebranding their name this is what the CEO of Ideal tools said in his last quarterly statement. Ideal tools is the holding company of Colorado forge.
We may still get the better quality craftsmen style tools back yet just not named craftsmen.

-- Illigitimii non carburundum sum

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#15 posted 11-04-2017 11:18 PM

craftsman tools are the same level of quality as harbor freight tools now

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