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Forum topic by Schooby posted 11-01-2017 01:32 PM 461 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Schooby

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11-01-2017 01:32 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question plane tablesaw planer

Hey Guys -

Long time listener, first time caller..

I was looking to get into hand planing, and after reading the article about coarse/medium/fine by (insert name here, I can’t remember), I was thinking to myself, “If I have a power jointer/planner/table saw, do I really need a number 5 plane?” I don’t think I’ll be doing much hand plane dimensioning (not now at least), but would like to have the hand tools to do better finishing..

I was thinking about maybe just getting a #7 and a #4? And then adding a jack later? I’ve read a bunch of about this and it seems like most wisdom is “get a 5 first”, but I thought, “Why get a 5 when I likely won’t use it?”

Thoughts?


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#1 posted 11-01-2017 01:46 PM


Hey Guys – I don t think I ll be doing much hand plane dimensioning (not now at least), but would like to have the hand tools to do better finishing..

Thoughts?

- Schooby

i would probable skip #7 then. go with#5 and #4 or #5 and #3, plus a decent block. #7 is really a chore to handle…sold mine and most hand planes due to arthritis

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#2 posted 11-01-2017 01:55 PM

Why do you need #7 if you are only going to use planes for finishing. Moreover you already have a power jointer.

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#3 posted 11-01-2017 02:04 PM



Why do you need #7 if you are only going to use planes for finishing?

- Carloz

Once you have one, you have to have them all. Lol

I would argue for a #4 and a block plane in your situation. For block plane a 60 1/2 or 65 would be my recommendation.

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#4 posted 11-01-2017 02:14 PM



Why do you need #7 if you are only going to use planes for finishing. Moreover you already have a power jointer.

- Carloz

My thought was I would eventually machine dimension down to about 32nd/64th of where I need to be and then hand finish…

This is more questions/proposal more than anything, so really I don’t have a “why” for anything yet.. makes sense?

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#5 posted 11-01-2017 03:53 PM

I find myself reaching for a #5 more than the others.

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#6 posted 11-01-2017 04:41 PM

An interesting question you pose, “Why get one?” Well I’ve often found that it’s better to have it and not need it, than is to need it and not have it. I’ve been amazed with the old hand tools I’ve purchased. They have com in so amazingly useful for that one annoying task. After using the tool and seeing the results I’m so very thankful I spent the money and time restoring it. They have very often become a game changer.

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#7 posted 11-01-2017 04:46 PM

You can always get more later if you like them. In your case, I agree with Wayne. But yes, you can set up a #5 like a smoother so that is an option. Other way is to buy whichever one you find a good deal on first.

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#8 posted 11-01-2017 05:23 PM

A #5 is lighter and easier to turn around and
find a place to put it down than a jointer. It’s
easier to handle and carry when doing carpentry
work too.

If all you do is work at a bench, sure you can get
by without one. I don’t see much reason to
spend a lot on a jack plane either, for me any
old Bailey will do all I want to do with it. I
find the arguments for a tuned and lapped
smoother and jointer more compelling.

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#9 posted 11-01-2017 05:25 PM


Why do you need #7 if you are only going to use planes for finishing. Moreover you already have a power jointer.

- Carloz

My thought was I would eventually machine dimension down to about 32nd/64th of where I need to be and then hand finish…

This is more questions/proposal more than anything, so really I don t have a “why” for anything yet.. makes sense?

- Schooby

The jointer plane duplicates your power jointer. For finishing, a shorter plane is better.

3 – 4 1/2 Smoothing Plane – finish work
5 – Jack plane – variety of work but a bit long for smoothing
6 – Fore plane – stock remove with a coarse blade
7,8 Jointer plane – making stock straight.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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corelz125

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#10 posted 11-04-2017 12:11 AM

I use a 5 often you could use the 5 to joint shlrt pieces. sometimes its just easier grabbing the handplane than flipping on the switch.

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