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Ryan

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1241 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: woodrat jig

While searching the web, I found woodrat made from UK.
It’s a routing tool making joineries.
I watched their demo video and it looks like working great.
It’s extremely easy to make all kind of joinery.
Is there anyone ever used this Rat?
If so, let me know your opinion because some tools looks easy to use in their demos
but in reality, most of those are very time consuming and needs steep learning curve.
I’m serious about buying one of those.
Thanks.


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mvflaim

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#1 posted 1241 days ago

I considered buying one as well until I saw the shipping to USA. I’ve since have been looking into a RouterBoss. It does everything the WoodRat does but costs a little less.

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bluekingfisher

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#2 posted 1241 days ago

I had a Woodrat, just recently sold it for £215.OO.

I used it a couple of times and has the capacity to make a multitude of joints. I would say however it is quite complex and time consuming to get used to working with it. Although it is useful if you are producing a lot of joints, it really makes quick work of mass production. The other benefit is it can make dovetails look like hand cut with the variety of dovetail cutters on offer

There are better tools out there, but if you have a small shop with limited space it may be the tool for all your joinery requirements. Itis best afixed to a wall for ease of use. Many of the woodworkers who have bought it here in the UK have consigned it to the corner because it is fiddly to set up for single jobs.

I saw an advert for the Woodrat in FW magazine in the US, so it may be worth buying a mag to find the distributor detailsin the USA. This way you will save a bundle on shipping fees from the UK .

Good luck with it

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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Bertha

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#3 posted 1241 days ago

I thought the strongest selling point was the wall-mounting option with a minimal shop footprint. I suspected that there was a pretty steep learning curve & once I had a popular joint set up, I’d end up leaving it that way. Add the price of a larger horsepower router & you’re looking at a pretty expensive semi-dedicated tool. It’s very, very cool, though. That’s for sure.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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bluekingfisher

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#4 posted 1241 days ago

Yep, it can be expensive, I think about £500 for the set up, this doesn’t include the router of course.

When then come up on ebay here in the UK there is a lot of interest in them, I had over twenty different bidders on mine. I was glad to sell it though, it was taking up space and that’s something I am not too flush with.

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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JohnKaye

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#5 posted 1241 days ago

Hi Ryan, I have the Router Boss which is similar to the WoodRat. Is it hard to use? That depends. Joinery – The tool lets you create dovetails that look hand cut at spacing of your choosing. With the right bits, you can dovetail from in boards 1/4” to 1 1/2”. For dovetails I found this to be easier to use than an expensive jig I once owned.
Mortises are easy. I now produce cabinet doors with dowel pinned tenons (hopefully for that hand made look). Also, I was doing beaded face frames before Kreg came out with their jig.
In short in order to do the standard stuff, it’s easy. But, you have the resource to do more than you could with whatever combo of other tools and jigs – this is the hard part.
My advise is to decide how much and what it is you want to do. If it’s pure hobby then you may want to play with other jigs and tools. You can always sell those later and upgrade.
Also if you are in the US then look at http://www.chipsfly.com. They make the router boss and service is great. Also see their forum link at the bottom of the page.
Good Luck

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TominTexas

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#6 posted 1241 days ago

I’ve owned a WoodRat for about 6 or 7 years. It’s a unique tool but does take sometime to learn the various set-ups and techniques. It offers great versatility and will give you a number of opportunities to make jigs that will further extend it’s capabilities. The RouterBoss is an improved version at least that’s the general consensus but I’ve not had the chance to see or use it. You might want to visit this website:

http://www.aldel.co.uk/

It’s got an alot of WoodRat and RouterBoss information including all kinds of user built jigs.

Tom

-- East Side of Big D

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Ryan

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#7 posted 1240 days ago

Thank you guys.
I’ve had enough information to make decistion soon.
Thanks.

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bluekingfisher

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#8 posted 1240 days ago

Just had a look at the Router boss….. Phew! nearly $800. and this is cheaper than the Woodrat??

How much does the Woodrat cost in the US??

Would be interested to know.

Cheers

David

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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dlmckirdy

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#9 posted 1240 days ago

Their website lists them in their USA store at $500 – $700 plus chuck and bits, hanging brackets, etc. Router not included.

Shrek likes them rotiseried, and also says they make a mean stew.

-- Doug, Bakersfield, CA - I measured twice, cut it twice, and it is still too short!

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bluekingfisher

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#10 posted 1240 days ago

Cheers dlmckirdy for letting me know – roughly the same numerical US$ to GBP£ price I guess then.

A couple of years ago when the exchange rate greatly favoured us it was really worth while having tools shipped from the states, even with the shipping costs. Alas the rate is slipping but it could still be a bargain for us here in the UK. For Ryan to consider having one shipped from this end to the states would work out very expensive

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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JohnKaye

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#11 posted 1240 days ago

As I mentioned before, I have a Router Boss plus several options. Is it expensive? For me, no. For someone else, maybe. You have to keep in mind that this is a precision machine that can do almost your pick of joinery. It can function as a horizontal or verticle router table. It replaces a dovetail jig that can produce variably spaced dovetails, a jig that can create mortises and tenons, a dowling jig, and probably more. All this with accuracy (I do within a few thousandths easily), repeatability (record your DRO settings, or use stops, or use a story board), size advantages (long or wide boards), and probably more. It does have disadvantages. One that becomes hidden from view but requires extra steps is that it creates square cornered tenons but rounded mortises. And there are others. My point is that the machine is a bargain if you need the functionality, want to deliver craftsman quality product, and use it frequently enough.

I went through a few dovetail jigs, a couple of router tables, a couple of mortiseing (and dowling) jigs (I like loose tenon joinery) and found the Router Boss could replace those and save me space and time. That said, my last router jig was an Akeda which was great. I also tried a leigh, which was great. people who own the Porter cable say it is a fine jig. Before that I owned an inexpensive (it was really cheap) jig. I spent resources such as time, money, frustration, and confidence. And so on for other products.

I’m not saying buy the Rat or the Boss, I’m saying plan ahead. If it doesn’t fit then buy the best you can afford.

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