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Forum topic by Kevin Tunis posted 02-14-2011 11:10 PM 6978 views 0 times favorited 18 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Kevin Tunis

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02-14-2011 11:10 PM

I purchased 5 -1 gallon cans of Minwax Gunstock 231 to do my hardwood floors (red oak) 3 of the cans I have put on have a nice golden brown tone. I have just a little bit of my floor to finish and the last 2 – 1 gallon cans have a lot of red so much so that it does not match the rest of my floor.

Has anyone else have a color change with Minwax Gunstock 231?

How can I match the Gunstock I used in the previous 3- 1 gallon cans?

I have also posted this question over on Minwax site hoping to get a answer.
http://www.minwax.com/bbs/index.cfm?frmid=5&tpcid=62347

-- Kevin Tunis


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#1 posted 02-14-2011 11:12 PM

I had a similar problem with a lot of Cabot deck stains. I got a big box store to “match” the color, then had them make up several gallons. Although the “match” wasn’t really a match, all the blends looked the same. That’s a drag. I hope you get it resolved.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#2 posted 02-15-2011 01:12 AM

Here is a photo of the difference

bentlyj I should of mixed the stain in a five gallon bucket it would of been more uniform in color – just was not thinking about that at the time. I have 3 different batch numbers – will check that out.

-- Kevin Tunis

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#3 posted 02-15-2011 01:51 AM

I had finish the lighter color poly as I need tp wait to stain the smaller area at a later date which I started on today. All the stain was purchased on the same day and each can was stirred. Since I stopped at a entry way I thought that it would be all right to poly what was done and stain and poly this little room last.

-- Kevin Tunis

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childress

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#4 posted 02-15-2011 03:17 AM

This happened to me once with paint. Definitely am mixing all together from now on. What a bummer…

Could it have possibly been a miss label you think?

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#5 posted 02-15-2011 05:37 AM

Man that diffference is huge!! I think the cans are mislabled – sure we usually mix cans together to ensure small differences aren’t a problem but that is just the wrong color – more like a red mahoghany or something.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#6 posted 02-15-2011 05:47 AM

You may want to contact minwax customer service and see if they can help.

Have you tried buying another can of stain to see if it has the same problem?

I agree with all about boxing, remember you should also box your paint when house painting.

-- Jack T, John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him might not perish but might have eternal life."

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#7 posted 02-15-2011 11:01 PM

Comparing the colors to the sample stains on the website http://www.minwax.com/wood-products/stains-color-guide/ I would say the last 2-1 gallon cans were Sedona Red 222 or Red Mahogany 225 than Gunstock 231.

-- Kevin Tunis

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#8 posted 02-15-2011 11:52 PM

Kevin,

I’m using gunstock on red oak stair treads I’m making and they look like the redder example of your flooring. Having said that, if all labels are the same, there was a mixup at the factory. How to resolve that now? This is why I was taught that when using multiple cans of paint to mix them all together then pour into a gallon container as needed. That way any minor inconsistencies would be eliminated and a major one, such as yours, would be caught before it was too late. Perhaps Minwax can guide you in a way to blend what you have. They should even compensate you for the cost involved; material only, of course, as the disclaimer on the label limits their liability.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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Kevin Tunis

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#9 posted 02-17-2011 12:38 AM

Tried a scrap piece of the flooring from the older bundles used in the first rooms this is the one on the bottom right. The one on the bottom left is from a newer bundle of red oak flooring. I used the same stain (stirred consistently) on both of the woods. I also tried Minwax Golden Oak this is very close so I might just go with this to finish out the floor (no picture of the oak stain).

-- Kevin Tunis

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#10 posted 10-11-2013 05:55 PM

Kevin, How did you end up fixing your problem? I’m running into the exact same thing… The floors are finished in the gunstock and when I bought the stain to do the stairs it came out bright red. Was it a bad can or did you sand it down and use something else to blend it close to the actual gunstock color? Thanks

NE

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Kevin Tunis

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#11 posted 10-11-2013 08:08 PM

NEvans What I did to kind of match the floor was to not stir the Gunstock stain it does come out close to what I stained it before.

-- Kevin Tunis

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#12 posted 10-11-2013 09:22 PM

I rest my case about MW products. Thumbs down.
Bill

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#13 posted 10-12-2013 12:45 PM

Interesting… I’ll give it a try. Thanks

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#14 posted 10-12-2013 10:27 PM

you got 2 different colors. The redder color is gunstock. I would talk to the store you got the cans from and see what they think. If you have the cans I would show it to them. sounds like a mis label to me.

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#15 posted 10-12-2013 11:07 PM

I recently just redid my steps and had the same problem… here’s a picture of them.

Notice the different coloration between treads and risers? I actually used the SAME CAN of stain for both. I apparently didn’t mix it up enough when doing the risers, and the red didn’t blend in enough.

Normally when I use Minwax Gunstock I get an red/orange color… I would say the first cans were either miss-labeled or not mixed up enough.

-- "Well, the world needs ditch-diggers too..." - Judge Smails

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